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GUARD1AN's NODLE

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:33 pm
by Guard1an
this is my build log prepare for epicness, she is a 2000 Plymouth Neon, came from the factory with a SOHC and ATX, well now shes 420A (out of a '98 Eclipse at 78K miles) powered, 5spd MTX out of a 2002 Neon, cat delete and 2.25" exhaust w/ SRT-4 cat back, new eclipse radiator, and besides the reverse flow head on the the 420A, a DOHC is a direct fit, just need custom exhaust work, lengthen the IAC, TPS, FI, IAT, coolant temp, and map sensor wires and your golden pony boy :D !!

sock motor plate installed

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motor plate mod'ed

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stock AC bracket IS REQUIRED !!!

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stock sensors reused on the 420A TB

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EGR plate needs swapped from SOHC motor to DOHC, stock 420A engines still use EGR's

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2 of the 3 ports on the back of the intake manifold need plugged, hells yea almost no vacuum lines lol

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stock SS fuel line modded to fit.......

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this !!

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made this from.... shit i can't remember lol for the rubber fuel line off the fuel rail

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this is the correct location for the clutch master.......

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don't be like me lol

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after, hey practice makes perfect lol

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heres the mitsu METAL slave on the '02 tranny btw non turbo 420a powered eclipse's (95-99) came with the same NVT-350 our cars came with, and all eclipse NVT-350's are hydraulic !!!!

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you don't need the fluid dampner for this, junky junk trash it

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heres the hardline its bent and is twisted slightly on one end to fit ......

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here

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heres a pic of the slave mocked up before the install

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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:42 pm
by LilSparkPlug
Wow, NICE work! :D

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:02 pm
by dtjackten
interested to see this one come together. looks like you do good work for sure!

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:11 pm
by Guard1an
heres the location for the clutch interlock wire......

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the wires coming off the neutral safety meeting with the wires you need to splice to do 2 things, 1 (green wire, also there is a black wire, just ground it to the chassis) disable the clutch interlock to be able to start the car, and 2( purple and white) have reverse lights

heres the reverse light switch on the transmission

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heres the console removed and thebolts that old the atx shifter....

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and the studs for the cables

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also a word to the wise taking the bolts off the heat shield againt the fire wall makes getting the cables out soooooo much easier

boogers installed at the shifter and trans woot woot

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5 spd shifter in

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heres my super sexy $9 hitch ball shift knob, lot of work, heated up and hammered on, it will not come off EVER lol

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you can....... and i say it as only an absolute necessaty use the stock radiator, but you wanna do this right, buy a new mitsu eclipse rad ('95-99) makes running the rad hoses sooooooooo much easier, you don't want to know the nightmare it was to make shit work :shock:

custom rad brackets out of flat steel

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engine in, its a redonkulusly tight fit lol

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I don'tknow abot ayone else, but the plate the gas pedl bolts to is spot welded in 2 spots.....

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does this mean I am an aggressie driver if i broke those spot welds ?? lolz

shittest spot to weld EVER !!!

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btw incase anyone is wondering, PT ATX passenger side axle is what you seek, I will get a part number in a bit

till then 4spd atx neon on top pt atx on bottom....

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I was rocking the tiny 49mm stock 420A tb then i decided to upgrade to a nice jeep 52mm 4.0L TB.......

back side

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vacuum port jb welded in place

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TB cable guides cut in half, since i don't need a spot for a kickdown aka modd'ed again

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which i eventually took one of my many jeep 4.0L tb which starts at a 60mm opening and tapers to 52mm (8+ jeep 4.0L tb's I buy in bulk lol) and bored it to 60mm all the way through

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and its got the half shaft mod and is still plenty strong, again i reused all the STOCK sensors

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to make the jeep 4.0L tb work you have to slot 2 holes and use socket cap screws, plus you have to relocate the idle stop screw

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and can be used with the stock eclipse intake

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but stock is junk so i searched craigslist and found a 8pc 2.5in intercooler kit with 10 t-bolt clamps for $40, brand new,

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so i took some hose

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cut it down the middle

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wrapped the hole where the stock airbox went with it so it wouldn't rub

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had to mod the idle stop bracket aka cut the top off to clear the intake tube when it rotated

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with 2 bends and 2 hose connectors and 3 clamps latter BAM

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also tried making a oil seperator for my crank case breather i think it was a total success but doesn't work like it should, probably a vacuum leak lol

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and installed

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shes also cat delete like i said, just used 2 spark plug non foulers welded to the exhaust pipe, btw those were some tight ass custom bends to snake the exhaust tubing around the crossmember pics to come soon, enjoy the tips :)

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also you MUST switch from the mitsu crank pulley to the stock SOHC, 2 reasons my god it huge and heavier, plus it uses 5 rib belts, stock neons use 4 rib

mitsu on left neon on right

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stock pulley vs udp

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yes the stock pulley literally fits over the UDP

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well thats all for now, hope the next posts will be fabbing up a turbo log manifold lol, if theres any questions or really detailed instructions/pics of anything i have covered please feel free to ask

oh just a few things,

I am running the DOHC MTX on the stock SOHC ATX computer, plug and play on the camshaft sensors, yes i have a check engine light for a "torque converter lock up selinoid" I don't care lol it DOES NOT affect the car in any way shape form or idea, i still have a 6,800 rev limit :twisted:

btw my 5spd swap was research research research !!!!!

EERYTHING NEEDED (minus pass axle, bought it new)

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and the next time some one says you can't put aluminium master and cast slave cylinders on '02+ hydraulic neons tell them there wrong and tell'em to look here for a comparrision :laughing3:

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as she sits now, still need 1" wheel spacers to get that hella flush look

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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:27 pm
by Guard1an
Thanks guys, its defintely been a steep learning curve, but its cake now lol I can take a stock jeep 4.0L TB mod it and bore it in like 1.5 hours vs the 4 hours it took first go. Oh i didn't take pics but shes dropped on a set of Eibach pro springs, my cost at the junk yard $40 for all 4, new MSRP $263.18, all and all i may have $1,400 for everything wheels $250, tires $374, stock srt cat back $30, eclipse engine $500, new rad $140, junk yard tranny w/clutch, shifter pedals, cluster, tranny mount $108 out the door plastic neon master and slave (free) mitsubishi master and slave(free) UDP (free), 6 jeep 4.0L TB's w/ sensors $50, my boneyard loves me, just wish they would get more 2gn's in for me to plunder :) !!!!

Also lilspk been meaning to ask you, would these projectors work for retro fitting after market headlights ?? or even stock ??

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can i stick HIDs in them ?? they came out of a 96ish GTI

-Mike

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:29 pm
by akirony
very interesting

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:39 pm
by c987long
congrats on that

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:40 pm
by Guard1an
thanks bro

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:42 pm
by INVUJerry
This needs huge cams, a long long header, a standalone, and a decent intake manifold. Get to work. NOW.

Good work man.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:51 pm
by Guard1an
sure thing Jerry, got about $5K to help me on my way lol, and no long header, weld el turbo manifold, HOLSET....... big boost but I need a spare motor to build with forged internals, and a nice list of expensive parts...... my wife just had our son, and i hear you get around $3K just for having the baby + your tax return ;)

-Mike

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:52 pm
by sxxxt
WOW.... so much goin on... now this is a progress log... lol
one question did u get ur reverse sensor hooked up and working? if so how exactly did you do that

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:31 pm
by Guard1an
of the 3 wires on the neutral safety switch for the ATX, you hook the green w/ black stripe one up to the clutch interlock switch, the purple and white hook to the purple and white wires on the plug that goes to the sensor on the trans

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:19 pm
by LilSparkPlug
You could certainly use those for retrofitting they're a halogen projector though so don't expect great things from them there are far better ones out there. They also look rather small unless your hand is really that monstrous...in that case they'd probably be better suited for a foglight retro. If you want to PM me better pics I'd be glad to help :)

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:42 pm
by slaw
this build is awesome
keep up the good work

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:19 pm
by DodgeEvo
Me likey what you doing =P~

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:31 pm
by quicksilvr
Very cool man, I like it.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:34 pm
by 2low4uneon
great log and good work :thumbup: