Part Number Request: 1gn PCMs

bone-yard-racing · Post by **bone-yard-racing** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:26 pm

I need all of them or as many as you can find. Thanks

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:00 pm

Gimme some time...

bone-yard-racing · Post by **bone-yard-racing** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:54 pm

However long it takes. Thanks John

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:01 pm

OK. This is a complete list of all the 1st gen Federal PCMs. I left out the California, High Altitude, and Export PCMs. It would take even longer to muddle through those listings than this list took

I will list all of the part numbers from the 1st one used all the way to the most recent, and the reman #'s as well. On the later part #'s that have the same base #, but supersede to higher levels (i.e. "AA" to "AB") I will just list the letter change.

1995

SOHC Automatic
5293471, 5269734, 4874156, R4874156

SOHC Manual
5293461, 4874154, R4874154

DOHC Automatic
4699036, 5269719, 4874165, R4874165

DOHC Manual
5269718, 4874164, R4874164

1996

SOHC Auto
47000055, 5269774, 5269795, 5269839, 5269847, 5269921, 5269903, 5269932, 5269941, R5269941

SOHC Man
4699053, 5269769, 5269790, 5269835, 5269838, 5269920, 5269901, 5269930, 5269939, R5269939

SOHC ACR
5293072, 5269772, 5269793, 5269837, 5269844, 5269926, 5269931, 5269940, R5269940

DOHC Auto
4699060, 5269762, 5269803, 5269851, 5269859, 5269927, 5269936, 5269945, R5269945

DOHC Man
5269943, R5269943

DOHC ACR
5269609, 5269781, 5269802, 5269850, 5269928, 5269935, 5269944, R5269944

1997

SOHC Auto
5269995AC, AD, R5269995AD

SOHC Man
5269991AC, AD, AE, R5269991AE

SOHC ACR
5269993AB, AC, AD, AE, R5269993AE

DOHC Auto
5293005AC, AD, R5293005AD

DOHC Man
5269998AC, AD, R5269995AD

DOHC ACR
5293004AC, AD, R5293004AD

1998 & 1999

SOHC Auto
5269819AD, AE, AF, AG, AH, R5269819AH

SOHC Man
*Note* There are two listings for this computer, but I can't tell what the difference is. I listed both.
5269063AB, AC, AD, AE, AF, R52930636AF
or
5269815AD, AE, AF, AG, AH, AI, AJ, AK, R5269815AK

SOHC ACR
5269817AC, AD, AE, AF, AG, AH, AI, AJ, RL269817AJ, R5269817AJ

DOHC Auto
5293065AB. AC, AD, AE, AF, AG, R5296065AG

DOHC Man
5269825AC, AD, AE, AF, AG, AH, AI, AJ, R5269825AJ

DOHC ACR
5293064AB, AC, AD, AE, AF, AG, R5269064AG

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:35 am

Impressive.

Thanks for listing this, Dante !!

- Nick

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:27 pm

No prob

It was a bit of work to get through all that, but if it helps someone then it was worth it

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:27 pm

Danteneon wrote: but if it helps someone then it was worth it

Well, seeing as how I still have x2 1st gen Neons.....

- Nick

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:23 pm

You didn't post the Mopar's?

I've always wanted to figure out how to get a 2000 to run on a 97-99 mopar computer.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:27 pm

invujerry wrote: I've always wanted to figure out how to get a 2000 to run on a 97-99 mopar computer.

I would, too.... It would be a godsend.

My understanding is that the 97-99 PCM's "communicate" with the dash cluster differently, precluding their use in a 2000.

I have both 2nd gen and 1st gen dash clusters sitting in the garage, I should see if the plug-ins are different......

- Nick

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:58 pm

They are, the 2000 gives actual code numbers like P040, where the 1gn pcm just does the flash the CEL thing. I think the gauges would physically work, but the CEL portion wouldn't work.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:07 pm

invujerry wrote:They are, the 2000 gives actual code numbers like P040, where the 1gn pcm just does the flash the CEL thing. I think the gauges would physically work, but the CEL portion wouldn't work.

Wow, you may have just MADE my DAY !!

Who CARES if the code numbers don't show..... I can always 'pull' those with a scanner.

I wonder if the 1st gen cluster will physically fit......
Well, I'm going into the garage in a few minutes, I'll take a look.....

- Nick

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:34 pm

From: http://www.moparspeed.com/assets/files/ ... 120908.pdf

1 P5007034 Engine Controller, 1995 Neon DOHC
1 P5007033 Engine Controller, 1995 Neon SOHC
1 P5007036 Engine Controller, 1996 Neon DOHC
1 P5007035 Engine Controller, 1996 Neon SOHC
1 P5007038 Engine Controller, 1997–99 Neon DOHC
1 P5007037 Engine Controller, 1997–99 Neon SOHC
1 P4529871 Engine Controller, Stage I, 1985 2.2L and 1987
Shelby Charger
1 P4529873 Engine Controller, Stage I, 1987 2.2L, Except Shelby
Charger
1 P5249671 Engine Controller, Stage II, Carb. E.O. #D-265, 1987
Shelby CXS
1 P5249528 Engine Controller, Super 60, 2.2L

Hope that's what you needed.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:08 pm

NickKo wrote:
invujerry wrote:They are, the 2000 gives actual code numbers like P040, where the 1gn pcm just does the flash the CEL thing. I think the gauges would physically work, but the CEL portion wouldn't work.

Wow, you may have just MADE my DAY !!

Who CARES if the code numbers don't show..... I can always 'pull' those with a scanner.

I wonder if the 1st gen cluster will physically fit......
Well, I'm going into the garage in a few minutes, I'll take a look.....

- Nick

NONO! I meant they are different, not the same!! Ohh man I just ruined your night.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:25 pm

invujerry wrote: NONO! I meant they are different, not the same!! Ohh man I just ruined your night.

No problem.

By the time you posted this, I was already in the garage...... all I had to do was hold the two clusters up side by side.

Unfortunately, they will not interchange..... not only are the mounting points different, but the connectors are completely different.

I wonder if the '97-'99 PCM will run the 2000 dash cluster at all.... or if the only issue is with the CEL function....

- Nick

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:21 pm

I bet if you had the pin out for both, and fabbed an adapter, it would. The speed sensor is prolly the same, as the 40te wasn't in the picture yet. I would think the tach signals would be the same. The rest is just signals from the senders. The senders and sensors would prolly need swapped on the block anyhow. The only other one I can think of off hand, is the fuel level. IDK if it is the same range. I know the 2gn cluster can be modded to work in 1gn's for SRT swap's, so some reverse engineering may be needed there.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:13 pm

ok please leave the pcm/cluster discussion out of here and start it in the apropriate topic...thanks