Smurf

Any sort of pictures or videos (no adult content!) that is not related to Neons go here.

What should I do with this

Junk it, down payment on semi clean 240z
2
18%
Junk it and get a real paint job
0
No votes
Junk it and not be broke for a couple months
5
45%
Break out the welder and bring her back
4
36%
 
Total votes: 11

User avatar
bone-yard-racing
2GN Member
Posts: 2328
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
Location: York PA
Contact:

Smurf

Post by bone-yard-racing » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:18 am

Image

Image

Image

Can you guess what it is?
Image

User avatar
MoxHair
2GN Member
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:41 pm
Location: Atwater, CA; Orlando, FL
Contact:

Post by MoxHair » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:31 am

1984 Charger?

Junk it
2017 Subaru WRX STI
Road Racing > Autocross > Spirited Driving > Sitting in Traffic > Mowing Lawns > Drag Racing

User avatar
Frizbe
2GN Member
Posts: 2984
Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: Denver, CO
Contact:

Re: Smurf

Post by Frizbe » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:47 am

bone-yard-racing wrote:Can you guess what it is?
Fucked?
Justin- I have nothing but smart ass remarks to add.
:-s
Fire_Hippo wrote:Frizbe, you rock my socks.
- Jeff's girlfriend
Image

User avatar
bone-yard-racing
2GN Member
Posts: 2328
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
Location: York PA
Contact:

Post by bone-yard-racing » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:49 am

Both right. I am out-bid on the weber set up. Come on sensiable people talk me out of restoring a k-car.
Image

User avatar
MoxHair
2GN Member
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:41 pm
Location: Atwater, CA; Orlando, FL
Contact:

Post by MoxHair » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:52 am

Its a K-car... lol thats reason enough :rofl:
2017 Subaru WRX STI
Road Racing > Autocross > Spirited Driving > Sitting in Traffic > Mowing Lawns > Drag Racing

J-Villa
2GN Veteran
Posts: 6880
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:51 am
Location: Hburg, Pa

Post by J-Villa » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:56 am

junk it
Wanna Sell Me Your 2gn??
Official I sold my Neon Member #004

User avatar
MyNeonSaysHi
2GN Veteran
Posts: 11801
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 8:46 pm
Location: Kansas

Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:56 am

Trash it. Looks like too much work.

08 Acura TL-S
05 Neon SRT-4

atom
2GN Member
Posts: 638
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:27 pm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Post by atom » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:18 pm

Trash it, if it was a GLH i'd say go for it though :)
Image

User avatar
grambo
Former Moderator
Posts: 3650
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:17 pm
Location: Tracy, NOR-CAL

Post by grambo » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:19 pm

Don't waste your time.
01' Neon ACR - SOLD - Its Alive!Thx Sean!
06' Subaru WRX STI - OTS Stage II
07 - Dodge Charger SRT-8 Super Bee #0267
01' Dodge Ram 5.7 - The Mall Crawler

User avatar
bone-yard-racing
2GN Member
Posts: 2328
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
Location: York PA
Contact:

Post by bone-yard-racing » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:40 pm

atom wrote:Trash it, if it was a GLH i'd say go for it though :)
\

1 of 468 the H.O. got all of the shelby stuff with out any of the interior or body also no A/C and PS was an option (which I have)
Image

User avatar
EvoNeon02
2GN Member
Posts: 313
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:08 pm

Post by EvoNeon02 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:41 pm

Junk it and buy my turbo charged 240
Image
Image

oklamopar
2GN Member
Posts: 664
Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:51 pm
Location: midwest city , oklahoma
Contact:

Post by oklamopar » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:47 pm

If that's all that's wrong with it and its a low number performance model. find a donor car with good floors and re do it. I had a duster with floors a lot worse than that.
whats the rest of the car look like?
Mopar Or No Car
GOD Allows U-Turns!
2002 R/T "Blackula" SOLD
1998 Neon Sport. wife's
2003 SRT-4 .FRANKENSTEIN. S1 "SOLD"
1998.5 Ram 3500 Quad-cab 4x2 DWR
1969 Dodge D100 SWB
Image

User avatar
bone-yard-racing
2GN Member
Posts: 2328
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
Location: York PA
Contact:

Post by bone-yard-racing » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:56 pm

EvoNeon02 wrote:Junk it and buy my turbo charged 240
Where and how much?


The rest of the car was pretty bad too but I have fixed it and just decided to pull the carpet up last night.
Image

User avatar
bone-yard-racing
2GN Member
Posts: 2328
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
Location: York PA
Contact:

Post by bone-yard-racing » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:46 pm

EvoNeon02 wrote:Junk it and buy my turbo charged 240
1 letter too many :lol:
Image

User avatar
frankeneon
n00b
Posts: 21
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:56 pm
Location: pa

Post by frankeneon » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:33 pm

MoxHairR/T wrote:Its a K-car... lol thats reason enough :rofl:
:laughing3:
Image

JRM
2GN Member
Posts: 3512
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:35 pm
Location: MO

Post by JRM » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:44 pm

grambo wrote:Don't waste your time.
Image
06 Ford F150 Stock truck 23x,xxx miles and running strong
05 Chevy Equinox Wifey's

Official I sold my Neon Member #482

User avatar
LaidNeon
2GN Member
Posts: 3080
Joined: Thu May 13, 2004 2:13 am
Location: Pasadena, Tx
Contact:

Post by LaidNeon » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:50 pm

how does the rest of the body look??? replacing the floor pan is simple, but time consuming. What really matters is how rusted the body is
- Dan

User avatar
INVUJerry
2GN Veteran
Posts: 6576
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:55 pm
Location: Hanover, PA
Contact:

Post by INVUJerry » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:05 pm

Oui vay. Sell it on turbododge.com for some collector and get a 240.
Image
So many neons so little time.

User avatar
Panhead
2GN Member
Posts: 2624
Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:47 pm
Contact:

Post by Panhead » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:22 pm

if the body is clean, go for it. replacing floor panels is not hard.
Juice
Image


"There is no "G" in Cummins"

Keep it Mopar, buy Mopar Parts

Midnight_Rider
2014 Platinum Contributor
Posts: 8322
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:49 am
Location: Indianapolis, IN

Post by Midnight_Rider » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:27 am

I'm confused... is it a K-car or do you have a Shelby something or other? Junk the former, restore the latter.
Official "I'm Going To Drive My Neon 'til It Dies" Club #10

User avatar
BlackRoseRacing
2009 Platinum Contributor
Posts: 12729
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:58 am

Post by BlackRoseRacing » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:00 am

Is it a numbers car?
Or just a special model?

User avatar
OverDrive418
2GN Member
Posts: 854
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:13 am
Location: Daytona Beach Area, FL
Contact:

Post by OverDrive418 » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:56 am

Looks like weight reduction to me.
Now all you gotta do is bolt a 5 gal. paint bucket to the floor and go! :thumbup:


But I'm a little confused too on what it is you're trying to do. If you just want something fast pull the "Shelby" motor and put it in a better chasis (or just diamond plate the floorboards provided the rest of it isn't rusted to hell). If you're trying to restore to original then you DEFINATLY have your work cut out for you.

Either way it looks like from these pictures it may be cheaper and safer to get something else.
Image
Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car. Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you're going when you hit the wall, and torque is how far you drag the wall with you.

User avatar
kc2005ptgt
Former Moderator
Posts: 6587
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:39 pm
Location: Kansas City, MO
Contact:

Post by kc2005ptgt » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:33 pm

naw, cut it out and replace it with diamond plate. Then when your computer screams DANGER TO MANIFOLD, watch out, because your rivets may pop out of the floor diamond plate :D
SOLD 5/13- 2005 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT Convertible | 2.4L Turbo HO | Bright Silver Metallic
SOLD 7/09- 2002 Dodge Neon ACR | Flame Red
The Offical: Sold My Neon Even Though I Swore I Never Would Club | Member #777

Image

User avatar
bone-yard-racing
2GN Member
Posts: 2328
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
Location: York PA
Contact:

Post by bone-yard-racing » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:37 pm

Midnight_Rider wrote:I'm confused... is it a K-car or do you have a Shelby something or other? Junk the former, restore the latter.
The 83 1/2-87 "shelby" charger's were built right along side these by dodge (think new GT500) They were developed at the Chrysler-Shelby performance center while the 86 (omni) and 87(charger) GLHS' were built at shelby automobiles with the rest of the #'ed cars.

Taken from "dempsy bowling":

"The first car to receive his attention was the Charger; it developed into the 83 1/2 Shelby Charger. Carroll dictated a large number of changes. In Shelby's own words, "I laid out all the parameters that I wanted in the car. The main parameters were to have as good a handling front-wheel-drive car as there is anywhere, that it be unique in appearance, and that it perform adequately." The engine was an enhanced 2.2 liter. It was block milled .030 inch, which raised the compression ratio to 9.6:1. The overhead cam was retarded four degrees for better top-end performance. The engine was carbureted richer than the normal, federal-package 2.2. These changes added up to 107 hp at 5600 rpm, 13 more horses than the standard 2.2. Torque peak was 127 lb-ft at 3600 and the redline was 6000 rpm. Its sole transmission was a 5-speed manual; its final-drive ratio had been bumped from 3.56 to 3.87. Thus equipped, the car went from 0-60 in 9.0 seconds and had a 16.8 second ET at 82 mph; top speed was 117.

Numerous changes continued into the handling department. The car sat almost an inch lower, thanks to shorter springs (30% stiffer in front, 15% stiffer in rear) and also to special 195/50VR-15 Goodyear Eagle GT tires mounted on new 4-lug aluminum "pizza" wheels. The shocks were notably stiffer all around. Carroll wanted to set the front camber negative so that the outside tire would be exactly perpendicular to the road during near-the-limit cornering, but Chrysler decided against it. The steering system was all-new; it was a very firm-feeling power system with a quick 14.0:1 ratio. Braking power was much improved, too: there were larger, ventilated discs up front and larger drums out back.

Visually, the car was like nothing else on the street. A new nosepiece and a large airdam were created; the ducktail spoiler and sideskirts from the Charger 2.2 were carried over. All together, these aerodynamic addons produced a drag coefficient (Cd) of .37 - not bad for its day, especially considering the starting point. The whole thing was then painted in audacious colors featuring a prominent dorsal stripe. For 83 1/2 there were only two color schemes: Santa Fe blue with silver stripe and trim, or silver with blue stripe/trim. Production total was 8,251: 3,066 silver cars and 5,185 blue cars. Both colors featured an identical interior, covered in blue and silver. The seats were unique to the Shelby and featured Carroll's famous CS logo embroidered into both front buckets and even the back bench. (Used Shelby buyers, take note: always examine the interior closely before buying!) Other standard interior items included an AM radio, a console, and an armrest.



One very notable thing which must be mentioned is this: only three months passed between the first proposal for the Shelby Charger and its production. This is very significant and basically unheard of either before or since. It should be noted that much time was spent track testing the car, both at the drag strip and (especially) Chrysler's autocross course. This was track time that paid off.

For '84, there were a few notable changes. For starters, a new exterior color scheme was added to the lineup: Garnet red with silver stripe/trim. When Garnet was chosen as the exterior color, the interior was now grey (see below); blue and silver cars still featured a blue interior. All 1984 Chargers (and Turismos, etc) received restyled taillamps. Another change was a slight increase in horsepower to 110. I have found some suggestion that this was due to a revised camshaft. The third and most significant change was the availability of an automatic transmission; this was the only year it was offered. When the automatic was chosen then the high-output engine was not available; the standard 94 hp 2.2 was substituted for these cars. Production total was 7,552: 1,254 Garnet cars, 2,776 blue cars, and 3,522 silver cars. 1,955 of the above total production featured the automatic transmission; I do not have information on breakdown by color, however.



An interesting note: for a brief period during the 1984 model year, the Shelby's H.O. engine was available in the lesser Chargers as well. Dodge equipped 71 base model Chargers and 504 Charger 2.2s with this 110 hp engine. Note that these cars did not feature the Shelby suspension, brakes, trim, etc. Also, when the H.O. engine was selected you had to have a 5-speed transmission; no automatic was offered.
The biggest news in '85 was underhood: the carburated engine was no longer offered; in its place was Chrysler's multi-point EFI turbo powerplant. The compression ratio was lowered to 8.1:1 and max boost was set at 9psi. Power now jumped to 146 hp at 5200 rpm, while torque swelled to 168 lb-ft at 3600 rpm. In the transmission department, the final-drive ratio was returned to 3.56:1. This increased power allowed for 0-60 runs in 7.8 seconds with a quarter mile ET of 15.9 at 85 mph; top speed was up to 124 mph.



Other news included the addition of one more color scheme: black with silver stripe/trim. On the inside, the interior was redesigned and featured much-improved seats that still bore the embroidered CS logo. Underneath, the front suspension had been redesigned to allow the use of equal-length halfshafts, reducing torque steer quite a bit. Also, the car now rode on 205/50VR-15 Eagle VR50 tires which were mounted on new 5-lug aluminum "pizza" wheels. In the interior, the standard radio was upgraded to the AM/FM stereo unit. Production totaled 7,709 for the year: 439 silver cars, 843 blue cars, 2,581 red cars, and 3,846 black cars.



1986 was basically a carryover year; the only significant addition was the addition of a third brakelight in deference to federal regulation. Inside, the formerly-standard equipment armrest was now an extra-cost option. Production was 7,669 cars, with 387 silver, 793 blue, 2,994 red, and 3,495 black.

1987 was mostly carryover, but not completely. This would be the last year of Shelby Charger production (and the last year of the front-drive Charger entirely). In fact, the production was cut short and the last 1000 cars were sold to Shelby himself (they would become the 87 Charger GLHSs). This year, a few items which were previously extra-cost options for the Shelby were added to its standard equipment list: the rear window louver, sunroof, and a cassette stereo. The only optional items now were A/C and engine setup (ie- 49-state, California, or high altitude). Inside, the armrest was dropped entirely. Also, blue and silver exterior colors were dropped (along with the blue interior). Production for '87 was only 1,011, consisting of 445 red cars and 566 black ones."


Mine (I have the build sheet) was built with the "heavy duty sport" (shelby/GLH) suspension and the larger rear drums.

The only L-bodys ever to be numbered were the GLHS
Image

ChrisRT
2GN Member
Posts: 1110
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:52 pm
Location: Maryland

Post by ChrisRT » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:23 pm

I had a plymouth turismo with the H.O 2.2 in it. I bought it years ago for 25 bucks and sold it for 50. lol
"Photography is more than a medium for factual communication of ideas. It is a creative art." - Ansel Adams

2008 Jeep Patriot Limited
2010 Jeep Wrangler 6spd/3.73's

User avatar
bad04srt
2GN Member
Posts: 2473
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:45 pm
Location: chitown

Post by bad04srt » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:14 am

damnit.....cant you listen when the computer says "danger to manifold".....thats why your floor pans fell out
Image

Midnight_Rider
2014 Platinum Contributor
Posts: 8322
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:49 am
Location: Indianapolis, IN

Post by Midnight_Rider » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:25 pm

bone-yard-racing wrote:...Mine (I have the build sheet) was built with the "heavy duty sport" (shelby/GLH) suspension and the larger rear drums.
You've answered my question. I was unaware of the history of these vehicles (must have been asleep since I was alive at that time :rofl: ). Restore it! :thumbup:
Official "I'm Going To Drive My Neon 'til It Dies" Club #10

User avatar
bone-yard-racing
2GN Member
Posts: 2328
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:36 pm
Location: York PA
Contact:

Post by bone-yard-racing » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:09 pm

^ The case of permatex rust desolver gel would agree with you. :lol:
Image

Midnight_Rider
2014 Platinum Contributor
Posts: 8322
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:49 am
Location: Indianapolis, IN

Post by Midnight_Rider » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:50 pm

:laughing3:
Official "I'm Going To Drive My Neon 'til It Dies" Club #10

User avatar
OverDrive418
2GN Member
Posts: 854
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:13 am
Location: Daytona Beach Area, FL
Contact:

Post by OverDrive418 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:30 am

Talking about this?:
Image

I see a lot of rust around the rear wheel (Rusty is a good name for it). If the engine is good, the frame is solid, and you're handy at welding then I say put in a new floor pan, paint a skull on the hood with a "boneyard Racing" logo under it and race it! I'm a big fan of the 80's notch/hatchback cars like Daytona/Starion/Conquest, RX-7, Supra, Trueno, Celica, 180/240, Impulse...off the top of my head. So now that I see it I'm rethinking my previous statement!
:thumbup:
Image
Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the back of the car. Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you're going when you hit the wall, and torque is how far you drag the wall with you.

Post Reply

Return to “Off-Topic Media”