How To: Cam Position Sensor replacement

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How To: Cam Position Sensor replacement

Post by Arro » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:21 am

How hard is this, and is it a dealer only part? I'm throwing a P0340 code.
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Post by 60trim » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:25 am

Not bad at all. Pretty easy. Just follow the directions in the Chiltons or Haynes manual and shouldn't have a problem.
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Post by OB » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:21 am

should be fairly easy, its in a relatively easy to reach location. You just gonna throw a new one in or do u plan to diagnose any further?
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Post by Arro » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:35 am

Well that's the thing... after searching the .org and here, I saw a lot of people complaining about the code, but nobody followingup with results (was it the wiring, was it the sensor, was it PCM malfunction?).

This P0340 code seems to be quite common in both 1Gn and 2Gn., that much at least I can tell.
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Post by 60trim » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:49 am

There are 4 bolts on the driver side of the head on where the CPS is. I believe they are 10mm. Unplug the sensor, unscrew the 4 bolts. Take out the sensor. Make sure the sensor magnet are lined up in the appropriate holes. Place the new sensor back into its position. Screw in the 4 bolts to the torque listed in the Chiltons/Hayunes manual. Unplug the battery for 30 mins or so. Reconnect the battery. Pull the codes from the ECU with the three turn trick and ensure that your ECU was reset. Fire up the engine, check your idle. Fix accordingly.
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Post by titansxt » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:24 am

Dammit, I getting this code now too. God damn car..... How much is this part? Am I ok to drive on this code?
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:04 am

MSRP on the sensor is almost $100 from the dealer....
And I recomend a 8mm 1/4 inch socket on a swivel and extension to help get the bolts out since you have to work around the metal heater tubes....
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Post by titansxt » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:07 pm

Where exactly is this located?
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Post by Arro » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:31 pm

I paid $29.00 at AutoZone so the $tealership can kiss my a$$ lol It works perfectly, and now I have no engine codes. The engine seems to idle better, too. AutoZone FTW!

In the end it was pretty easy:

1. Remove battery cables.

2. Remove battery.

3. Bend open the two rubber-coated brakets that hold the wire bundle (this is the wire bundle that goes under the plastic injector cover).

4. Detach the PCV tube from the valvecover; set aside.

5. Move the wire bundle over the top of the PCV vent. You should be able to wriggle it over.

6. Unbolt the steel heater hoses from the head, right next to the CPS.

7. With an 8mm universal jointed socket (not a U-joint connected to an 8mm short, that might be too long), remove the four bolts that hold the CPS. For the lower right one, you may need to snake the extension and socket in between the two rubber heater hoses.

8. Pull up the CPS from the area.

9. Detach the sensor wire connector. Be careful, as it may be brittle and can break.

10. Wipe the exposed area on the side of the head with a paper towel.

11. Attach the new CPS to the harness connector. If you broke the hook n' latch off in the removal, gently bend the two outermost prongs on the new CPS, so that when it slides into the connector, it has some tension on the contacts and holds in place.

12. Bolt the CPS back in.

13. Bolt the steel heater lines back to the head.

14. Move the wire bundle back into the rubberized brackets and bend them closed.

15. Replace the PCV hose on the vent.

16. Replace battery and battery cables.

You're done!
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Post by titansxt » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:26 am

Was real easy, $25 for me at Autozone.... I had one extra step, removing the broken bolt from the block and going to the junkyard to get a new one. Opps. Car still idles like crap though.
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Post by 60trim » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:29 am

25 dollars! I went there and they qouted me 65... :beatstick: can I get a part number maybe off you guys. Not saying that I need it...yet, but have a feeling it wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Post by Arro » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:39 am

http://www.autozone.com/R,APP292083/veh ... Detail.htm

Just know that the vehicle ID is for a 2000 Neon 2.0. I'm pretty sure they are all the same, but change the vehicle to your specific year to be sure.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:01 am

you cant link to autozone's site like that since most of the information is cookied into your personal web browser :)

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Post by titansxt » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:55 am

60trim wrote:25 dollars! I went there and they qouted me 65... :beatstick: can I get a part number maybe off you guys. Not saying that I need it...yet, but have a feeling it wouldn't be a bad idea.
SU3020 Wells Camshaft Position Sensor.
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Post by Arro » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:23 am

Sticky?
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Post by titansxt » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:14 am

Arro wrote:Sticky?
Just use soap and water.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:59 am

titansxt wrote:
60trim wrote:25 dollars! I went there and they qouted me 65... :beatstick: can I get a part number maybe off you guys. Not saying that I need it...yet, but have a feeling it wouldn't be a bad idea.
SU3020 Wells Camshaft Position Sensor.
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^^^
It could also be a different price depending on your area code and availability....
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Post by popcornPIMPz » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:13 pm

Ok. My car threw the same code. And my dad just replaced it. He wanted me to thank you for the step by step instructions they were perfect. Didn't take too long at all. He said the only thing he'd add would be like a telescopic(sp?) magnet, incase you drop a bolt or w/e, lol. But other than that it was on the money. My car is up and running again and works a whole lot better than before. Thanks again! :)

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Post by kingmafiasfinest » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:57 pm

ok i just did this it wasnt to bad.... but i ran in to a huge problem!!! im guessing either the gasket or i didnt tightn it enough and my oil drained out all over.. i hav to wait til the morning to take the battery out and see if i can fix it..

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Post by soul_sword34 » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:55 pm

Arro wrote:http://www.autozone.com/R,APP292083/veh ... Detail.htm

Just know that the vehicle ID is for a 2000 Neon 2.0. I'm pretty sure they are all the same, but change the vehicle to your specific year to be sure.
I didn't know the cam sensor and the radiator fan motor were the same. :D
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Post by Arro » Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:51 am

yeah the link is bad, you're a bit late we already mentioned that ;)
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Post by kingmafiasfinest » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:12 am

ok i took it apart again today and i found the problem! the gasket some how wasnt in all the way and it melted! lol so i just took the old one and put it on and now its all good

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Post by Arro » Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:00 pm

Yeah those things are finnicky.... but what a difference once they're working properly!
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Post by titansxt » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:50 pm

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Post by Mazda787b » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:11 am

I am about halfway done (need to pick up sensor) on doing a CPS + pigtail on my 99.

I found the easiest thing to do was to unplug the main wiring harness from the TB, Injectors, IM, etc. This let me move the harness to get to the last two bolts with the swivel head.

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Post by Nalayah » Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:00 pm

I just got done taking the old CPS off and putting a new one in... however, the bolts don't seem to be screwing in properly. With each try they just get worse. Any idea what's going on? They're the exact same bolts.

EDIT: Turns out I crossthreaded them. Had to ease them in over time, and finally got it done. Best advice I can give is to walk away and relax for a bit with a pop or beer, then come back in an hour.

And for those who are having hard starts (10-15 cranks to start the engine) and having your car throw this code, yes it fixes it :). Now to work on changing the oil... shop overtorqued the bolt on.

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Post by NSDPerformance » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:42 pm

Heres the Napa part #CSS702. This even comes with a new replacement harness. I get a small discount from work but it only cost me 18 bucks. I had a hairline crack in my original unit causing a small oil leak through the plug.
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Post by occasional demons » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:16 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote: 5096057AA - Dealer - $53.10msrp
(sorry I thought it was higher my bad)
CSS702 - Napa # - $47.29msrp
AL2002 - Advance Auto - $31.99 internet price
SU3020 - AutoZone - $27.99 internet price
It's all good tho!

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Post by c987long » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:26 am

here in ohio i picked one up for 22.00
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Post by nicksdad06 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:14 pm

hey i just replaced my sensor today and man what a difference even getting better gas mileage thanks for the how to!!!!!

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