How To: BRR's Mustang TB Adapter

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How To: BRR's Mustang TB Adapter

Post by BlackRoseRacing » Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:56 am

The info is now posted online for everyone
http://www.blackroseracing.net/TBAdapter/TBAdapter.htm

Due to fabricators not coming through making the adapter plates fast enough, all the info for the adapter plate is now posted online....

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Post by SlvrACR » Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:32 am

No my brother wants to do this. Is there an problems you have faced that I should look into before we start?>
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Post by z3roneo » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:34 pm

Where can I go to get the IAC gasket??? I went to autojoke and they don't carry it... It's pretty much the last thing I need...

I did mines a lil different but I'll post pics of it when its complete..
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Post by SlvrACR » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:37 pm

You can buy gasket material from autozone and make it with a razor knife if you cant find it
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Post by z3roneo » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:50 pm

^ yea I bought that stuff but I would rather just get the gasket instaed of cuttin one...
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Post by anomalous0 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:32 am

I just used red gasket maker and it works fine. He's right about filling the hole though.
Definitely an improvement. I think I got a slightly different TB than he did though, mine has more of a velocity stack shaped inlet with ribs on the outside. I've got pics somewhere.
Also you can actually hear the car sucking in air....it kinda scared me at first till I realized what it was.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:17 am

Ive still got gaskets here in front of me....
10 - TB to adapter gaskets
10 - IAC gaskets....**sold 2**
If you need any PM me....

As for any issues with this setup, other than the throttle cables slipping and thats why I doubled up on the clamps, no major downfalls since using this on my car since february. That was one of the other reasons on delaying posting any info since I wanted to make sure it worked without problems before posting any information.

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Here are a couple of pics with it mounted in a stock location and hooked upto a stock airbox for an OEM look.
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Post by SlvrACR » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:20 pm

Started getting the parts with my brother. Today at the junkyard we got everything needed but the adapter all for $20. The adapter was an extra $15 Thanks for all the research and time you took to find this out.

anomalous0 wrote:I just used red gasket maker and it works fine. He's right about filling the hole though.
Definitely an improvement. I think I got a slightly different TB than he did though, mine has more of a velocity stack shaped inlet with ribs on the outside. I've got pics somewhere.
Also you can actually hear the car sucking in air....it kinda scared me at first till I realized what it was.

The ribbed one is actually smaller then the TB he is talking about. I almost got that one til I measured it.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:54 am

The ribbed one is actually smaller then the TB he is talking about. I almost got that one til I measured it
It probably the 60mm TB VS the 65mm I posted in the how to...

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Post by Marthby » Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:24 am

Is performance any better with the 65mm than the 60mm?
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:12 am

I honestly can say, with my old open runner manifold, the 65mm gave me more top end pull than the modern or lorenzo 60mm's, but remember it was done by seat of the pants and not actual dyno pulls with my magnum engine....

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Post by anomalous0 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:35 pm

Well I was cruising home depot yesterday and saw something very interesting. I was in the electrical aisle and I saw an "A-L fitting for 2 1/2" conduit" that could easily be adapted for this project. Looks alot like the adapters that were being fabbed. At most, the inside would have to be ground smooth, since there are small ribs around the inner ring, and you might have to drill some new holes in the mustang TB, but it was around $20. I'd try it if I hadn't already found a solution.
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Post by SlvrACR » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:38 pm

I bought my adapter from Ebay for $10
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:46 pm

SlvrACR wrote:I bought my adapter from Ebay for $10
Any links?

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Post by dawm » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:59 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:
SlvrACR wrote:I bought my adapter from Ebay for $10
Any links?
something like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/V8-96-04 ... dZViewItem
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Post by anomalous0 » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:27 pm

right on the mark. I sense an impending drop in the number of future MPx throttle body sales....
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:19 am

anomalous0 wrote:right on the mark. I sense an impending drop in the number of future MPx throttle body sales....
I'm sorry :lol:

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Post by khronus » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:58 am

More pics pleaseeeeeeee, I need a new TB and don't have the $250+ to spend on 1, this would be perfect for me

this is why I need a new one:

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It works just fine :shock: , but I rather get a new 1 :D

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Post by Marthby » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:27 pm

:rofl: :laughing3: How the hell did that happen?
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:16 pm

khronus wrote:More pics pleaseeeeeeee, I need a new TB and don't have the $250+ to spend on 1, this would be perfect for me

this is why I need a new one:

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It works just fine :shock: , but I rather get a new 1 :D
What more pics do you need?
When the mustang tb setup is done, it pretty much looks like what you have in your hands other than being broken.... :)

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Post by khronus » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:38 pm

Marthby wrote::rofl: :laughing3: How the hell did that happen?
The guy I bought the car from had it :quotes: a lil' neglected :quotes:

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Post by anomalous0 » Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:33 pm

Update: Finally fixed the lopey idle. While some of you may have this mod work perfectly, in my case, my idle stayed high and lopey no matter what and I threw a TPS code, even though I have a brand-new mustang TPS in there. Well, I tracked it down to the fact that the throttle plate wasn't completely sealing and there wasn't a damn thing I could do about it, that is, even adjusting the idle set screw and snapping the throttle with the plate loosely screwed on to seat it didn't work. It was just a teeny bit too small. So, it was getting too much air at idle, almost like leaving the little hole in the throttle plate. Obviously mustangs don't mind having a little extra air so it didn't need to seal for them.
I solved it by taking some epoxy putty and plugging up the IAC inlet passage, and then taking a toothpick and poking a little tiny hole. This way it will get as much air at idle, between the leaky plate and the passage, as it's supposed to. And at part throttle it doesn't matter if the plate seals or not.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:16 pm

^^^
Your the first Iv'e heard to have this issue....
My idle problem was because of the hole in the throttle plate, thats why I stated to plug it. Are you using the similar TB in the instructions?

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Post by anomalous0 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:14 am

I've got the 60mm one, not the 65mm. Maybe that's why. The tolerances might not have been as tight in their manufacture.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:22 am

anomalous0 wrote:I've got the 60mm one, not the 65mm. Maybe that's why. The tolerances might not have been as tight in their manufacture.
Its always possible....

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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:13 am

Bump to the top for an interested member...
You may want to check out this topic:
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The above topic explains how to make a Chrysler TPS work with the Ford TB....

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