any ideas?

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:28 pm

so i want a deck i'm thinking pioneer or alpine are going to be it,
i was hoping for something with 3 preouts, sub, front rear so i can play with the filters and have highs in the front you know, anyway i'm looking at the decks with the ipod adapters and you control the ipod through the deck and i'm thinking would it be easier to go through the aux? anyone have expierence with them? i have the previous gen ipod if tht matters, my other worry is alpine decks seem to have less wattage? huge deal or no lol, anyway i'm looking for a good deck i'm buying it off ebay so yea i was looking at the alpine cda-9883 but was then looking at the previous ones with aux input and for pioneer i was looking at the ones with screem savers and older gen with the aux again i guess a big thing i was wondering about was the ipod control
if you have any ides i'd love to hear them this is the start of my sound system and i no its a key component thanks!

edit:
hey just found a good deal on a pioneer deh-p3900mp any ratings?

jT · Post by jT » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:13 pm

just go to http://www.crutchfield.com and do your research and find something you like

as for the less wattage, well if you actually plan on using amps for front/rear/sub then the wattage from the head unit wont matter since youll be using the outputs to the amp (which is the only thing the outputs are used for, to go to an amp, not sure if you know that)

otherwise you want something with the highest RMS per channel

the deh-p3900mp looks pretty good

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:42 pm

oooo i thought it was the amp+ my deck powering the speakers, my bad i'm a rookie lol i'm trying to go cheaper on the deck with decent look so i can blow my money on speakers or hopefully a 10" alpine type r sub

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:23 am

the type-r 12's and 10's should be very close in price, go for the 12's, mine are 3-years old now and i love them, they still sound like they did when they were new, check out my 05 neon it has details of everything i have.

as far as decks, if your buying a 2007 (ex. DEH-PX9XX for 2007 and DEH-PX0XX for 2008) model or newer go for pioneer, they have the same sound quality as alpine and they are much easier to use and have more features /options. if the deck is older than 2007 (ex DEH-PX8XX or less) they are very close to alpins quality but youll stiff have the same bells and whistles, my system is full alpine and the radio is a 3 year old PIO and it sounds great.

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:57 pm

anyone buy anything refurbished off ebay? like i'm buying it off ebay because any local store here is triple the price or higher but alot of the gear is refurbished don't know if thats worth looking into or not?

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:37 pm

i bought both my pioneer dehp670mp and a dual brand xdma7515 from ebay no prob..
i say go pioneer, but i always liked them.. or if your on a budget....

now everyone flames dual, i never would have bought it, but my g/f wanted it for her car cuz it was "pretty", so i got it. 80$ shipped for the xdma7515 or something like that.. it came with 3 preouts, aux, and a/v hookup, ipod adapter came with it, mp3, and a bluetooth adapter for your phone. looks good, sounds great, infinity speakers and 2 12"s in the trunk, surprised the hell out of me, i was impressed,. im 99% sure it had the high pass filters and the low pass for the sub built in, i can double check...

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:40 pm

and they were both on ebay refurbish? like i seem to find is factory refurbished and i'm juss wonderin if its still good or is just going to be f*cked when i open it

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:02 pm

if its factory refurbished its not fucked up. they repair it to where its like new. i have a Pioneer DEH-P5900iB refurbished. i dint kno it was til i saw the sticker. i bought it off a crackhead for $30. wat a steal...

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:06 pm

jetas wrote:if its factory refurbished its not fucked up. they repair it to where its like new. i have a Pioneer DEH-P5900iB refurbished. i dint kno it was til i saw the sticker. i bought it off a crackhead for $30. wat a steal...

lol wat prolly was stolen haha thats one of the ones i'm looking at how is it? any good? anmy cons? i'm debating between that and the deh-p3900mp juss cause it has an aux input for my ipod but i guess i can use the am/fm transmitter i got for that.

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:40 am

I'm running the deh-4800ui I believe. Its a nice unit. Has the 3 pre-amp outputs, accepts the 30pin ipod connector, and an aux input that I keep in the glove box to hook up my laptop.

I was able to find it on ebay factory refurbished for like $130 shipped with the ipod cable.

It works great. As far as adjusting the sound goes, there are plenty of filters to mess with. The only thing I dislike at all about the deck is that you can't autoscroll through the ipod artists/albums/whathaveyou, you must repeatedly press the button.

EDIT
Ok its a 490IB

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:22 am

i have ran alpine for the past 10 years at least ... and had 0 issues with them ...

it has been that long since i have touched a kenwood or pioneer ...

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:51 pm

aquariuskid2001 wrote:now everyone flames dual

and im one of those, when i worked at bestbuy i up that exact dual to my scope and the sound quality was worse that the sony's we sell and those were the crappiest radios that we carried other than dual or insignia. the kenwoods were alright along with the JVC's but the pios and alpines are as good as you can get.

and about the pioneers, if your model number has 2 or 3 numbers instead of 4 (ex. DEH-PXXX[mp,ib,ub] vs DEH-PXXXX[mp,ib,ub]) and its not a primier model then you baught a striped down version of that model. heres how you can break down thier model numbers.

DEH-PXY[00][mp,ib,ub]

x= the series, the higher the number the better the model 1 is lowest 9 or 8 is thier best

y= year 4=2002, 5=2003..... 9=2007 0=2008

the 0's that are in brackets is the indicator if its a striped down model, if both are missing its a radio that wal-mart sells or equivilant, these are the most stripped down models they make, and last i looked were exclusive to wal-mart. if one is missing and its NOT a primier model its a stripped down version of the normal model, usually its a cheaper sound processor or less support for mp3 discs, something software based. Primier models are thier best models, way better internals.

[mp,ib,ub]
mp=reads mp3 cd's

ib=has full speed support for i-pod, though the old school av-bus they had on the AVH-P's or the AVIC's, except these are white instead of blue

ub= has usb support behind the radio in place of the ib plug

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:10 pm

now will any of these crossover like is ib also an mp aswell or can sayy i attach the cord to an mp? ect

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:22 pm

the ib's do everhthing the mb's do plus they have the new ipod port hence the "ib" badge

the mb's use the old school ip-bus (ONLY IF IT SAYS SAT RADIO READY ON THE FACE) ipod interface which is what my AVIC-N2 uses and i must say it SUCKS MAJOR ASS compared to the new ib-bus pioneer has.

the ib ipod cord is arround $30
the ip-bus ipod interface is about $50

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:07 pm

wats the ipod sound like through the aux port? i'm still in debate between a couple and i'm juss curious about the aux port sound compared to the ipod connection in the back

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:13 pm

the ipod difference is going to depend more on the cable you are using .. if you are going out of the headphone jack on the ipod .. it won't be as good as going out of the connection on the bottom of it

either would be an improvement over using an FM transmitter tho

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:19 pm

i kind of like just using the ipod to scroll through my songs but i guess it would sound better through the ipod connector:S

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:05 pm

just bought a pioneer deh-p3900mp for 100$ brand spanking new? good investment or did i f up lol?