No day time running lights?

sullivan · Post by **sullivan** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:29 pm

my car seems to not have daytime running lights.... any suggestions so i can pass safety.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:14 am

"Vehicles built for use in Canada are equipped with a Daytime Running Lamp (DRL) system. The DRL function is provided by the cluster. The DRL Module is an integral part of the instrument panel cluster."- 2002 Service Manual

Have you been having any electrical problems with your cluster? Have you rewired your fog lights so that they will operate without the headlights? Two places to start looking.

sullivan · Post by **sullivan** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:33 am

havent noticed any problems with the cluster, and car never had fogs.....

slow2.0ts13 · Post by **slow2.0ts13** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:14 pm

off topic but did u photoshop ur avatar?

sullivan · Post by **sullivan** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:53 pm

hahaha yeah the hood. now back on topic the cluster works fine, where is the DTR Module located? below fuse panel inside the car?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:54 pm

Midnight_Rider wrote:"Vehicles built for use in Canada are equipped with a Daytime Running Lamp (DRL) system. The DRL function is provided by the cluster. The DRL Module is an integral part of the instrument panel cluster."- 2002 Service Manual

sullivan · Post by **sullivan** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:48 pm

hahaha yeh, but how do i fix it, make it work!

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:06 am

I would assume that, if the problem is indeed in the cluster itself, you would have to replace the cluster. Hope this isn't the case as, the last time that I checked, a CDN cluster retails at about $500 US..

sullivan · Post by **sullivan** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:15 pm

well i took apart the cluster, cleaned it all up and the DTR are now working!.

thanks for all the help everyone

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:44 am

Glad to know that it was an easy (i.e. inexpensive) fix.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:08 am

cherokeesrt8.com wrote:U.S. fleet vehicles illuminate the low beam headlamp bulb in each front lamp unit to serve as DRL. Officially, non-fleet U.S. Grand Cherokee WK's are not certified to have the DRL feature enabled. However, we have confirmed that some owners have had this done at their dealer. All that was required was simple reprogramming via the DRB scan tool.

Now this has me wondering if a dealership could reprogram our clusters like this...

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:33 am

My guess is no. The jeep is probably controlled by the BCM or some other computer where it can be enabled or disabled, whereas the neon appears to be "dumb" and is integrated into the cluster circuitry or it isn't. My guess is cluster swap would be the only OEM way of achieving this... Again, I may be incorrect though.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:01 am

Yeah, I had already figured on cluster swap years ago and given up due to the cost of buying a Canadian cluster. Just ran across that quote and started dreaming.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:14 pm

Do you need a Canadian SRT cluster, Gramps? I know my standard black BUX cluster did it when I had it installed. Drove me nuts and I pulled it.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:49 am

All I know is that the 2002 Service Manual says that the DRL circuitry is in the cluster itself so I had just figured that I would have to buy a Canadian one to have the lights. You said "BUX" so that is why your cluster had DRL.

Gnuserup · Post by **Gnuserup** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:39 am

Does BUX mean all exports ?

I thought, that only Euro-exported cars are called BUX ...

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:30 am

Good question, IIRC, BUX is "Built Up Export", but I can see where being loaded, or "built up" could be a disadvantage in selling in poorer countries.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:33 am

BUX = non-American to me. And that's that.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:36 am

I don't think that Neons sold in Canada and Mexico were considered BUX models even though the ones badged as Chryslers in Canada had more equipment on them than those sold here. As for Mexican-sold ones, I don't know. Any other markets outside of North America, I think it's safe to say that DCX labeled them as BUX.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:29 pm

Well, for this instance, since I'm a moron with foreign stuff, the Canadian clusters force the DRLs to come on. I don't know why you'd need one imported from the UK if a Canadian one will give you the same result (unless you're looking for MPH vs KPH or some other detail with which I can't be bothered).

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:06 pm

FAC3L3SS wrote:...the Canadian clusters force the DRLs to come on.

Correct, which is why I had looked into buying a new one from my dealership years ago (gave up when I saw how much it would cost and, like you, not wanting to be bothered with km/h being the larger digits on the speedo). I just fantasized about a dealership somehow being able to flash something to get the DRLs to work without buying a new cluster. I was wrong but it was a nice fantasy.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:26 pm

keep the dream alive, man!

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:36 pm

FAC3L3SS wrote: keep the dream alive, man!

Yeah, you know me.

A Canadian cluster is among items on the list of lottery-winning purchases.