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Lost key... Listen to this

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:14 pm
by DoubtedNeon
So I lost my keys to the snow this winter, and throughout the winter ive been turboing my neon (msII and such) as some of you may know.

I called the dealership to get a new key, and its 54 Dollars for the key and 40 for them to program it... WTF!? are you serious?

is this right or are they trying to screw me?!

And i have to tow the car in and get it programmed.

Any advice is welcomed. please help yes its sentry

Also, I have ms in it and I swapped a Manual ECU in it that is not programmed to the car.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:40 pm
by 03blackrt
Yep, that sound right. :(

You could always do what I do and slip a tech $20 to program it "on the side". :D

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:42 pm
by heydockyle
Yep. Sentry makes things expensive.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:23 pm
by jetas

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:45 pm
by sidepipe87
heydockyle wrote:Yep. Sentry makes things expensive.

What he said... Sentry keys ain't cheap bro.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:46 pm
by heydockyle
If you are saying he should use this method. He doesn't have 1 key, let alone 2.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:11 pm
by Danteneon
I got your PM, but now that I read the thread, I have to agree. Those prices are right in line. We charge $45.00 to program them. Granted, we will do as many as you like for the same price, but a 1/2 worth of labor is the going rate.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:58 pm
by Danteneon
Per our phone call, here is the info I shared with you Colt...

The dealer needs to pull up the VIN from your car and retrieve your SKIM #. Then they would use the DRB III or StarScan to program the PCM in your car with your car's VIN and SKIM. All should be good from there :thumbup:

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:59 pm
by 2k1MotorSport
ebay the key first off... i got a sentry key from ebay for around $15 and its the key i'm using now. Then worry about the cost of programming.

eBay link

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:08 pm
by heydockyle
I wish I could get a 2006 neon let alone a key for one.

Ebay is a good idea though.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:44 pm
by FAC3L3SS
$76 key and $38 to program a Pontiac key. Looks like we've got it slightly cheaper.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:37 pm
by DoubtedNeon
I got the ebay key, ty guys for the help. I hate my local dealership. full of know-it-alls that arent know-it-alls.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:00 pm
by nineball
you guys got it easy! the jag i just sold is similar in that if you don't have both factory keys you cannot reprogram them. cost per key - $289, and that doesn't even include the needed fob, just the key itself.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:34 pm
by blue_streak95
i simply got a security system installed n they hard wired the key into the system and bypassed my sentry system...no mo sentry for me :) now my keys cost 10 bucks

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:06 pm
by occasional demons
You can do the same thing by taping the key to the column. Prolly what they did, just put it inside.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:52 pm
by sidepipe87
well I know this isn't helpful but I thought I'd stir the pot a little. My red car came with 2 SKIM keys, but I only got one RKE fobik and it was haggard with a button missing, so today I programmed a new one for it.

-brand new fob. FREE - found in garage!
-programmed. FREE - dad brought home the DRB!

Total spent: $0

priceless. :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:30 am
by DoubtedNeon
occasional demons wrote:You can do the same thing by taping the key to the column. Prolly what they did, just put it inside.
how does that work?!

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:35 am
by sidepipe87
DoubtedNeon wrote:
occasional demons wrote:You can do the same thing by taping the key to the column. Prolly what they did, just put it inside.
how does that work?!
he's talking about for an alarm.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:41 am
by occasional demons
They did it to bypass the SKIM for w/e reason to install the car alarm.

So when professional thief breaks into car, they start it up and drive away. PCM doesn't shut down crap.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:49 pm
by excon
i've heard you don't need a key with skim as long as the key is near the lock cylinder. Get a $3 key cut and have your grey key taped to the steering column. The plain key should work in the ignition...

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:55 pm
by nineball
excon wrote:i've heard you don't need a key with skim as long as the key is near the lock cylinder. Get a $3 key cut and have your grey key taped to the steering column. The plain key should work in the ignition...
if you are going to do this route then to yourself a favor and break the cut part off of the gray part. it will still work the same way and there is no point in leaving working key inside your column.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:55 pm
by NickKo
nineball wrote:
excon wrote:i've heard you don't need a key with skim as long as the key is near the lock cylinder. Get a $3 key cut and have your grey key taped to the steering column. The plain key should work in the ignition...
if you are going to do this route then to yourself a favor and break the cut part off of the gray part. it will still work the same way and there is no point in leaving working key inside your column.
Now THIS is a SLICK idea, I like it. :) :thumbup:

- Nick

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:46 am
by DoubtedNeon
well, good news, im running ms. so i dont need to program a pcm at all.