kicker system?:D

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Sun May 16, 2010 8:18 pm

so, at my work Kicker has a special employee purchase plan (bestbuy) and im getting 2 12" CVR subs and 2 of the 1000.1 amplifiers ill be running the subs 400W at 2 ohm and the amps at 550W rms 2 ohm. also im getting 2 6x9 and 6 1/2 all for 6 bills!

retail :1350!

i think im pretty stoked!

anyone have any reviews on these ive heard good things and it should be booming

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Sun May 16, 2010 9:34 pm

You are running the subs at 400w rms, and the amps at 550 rms?

What?

They are the same I have, powered by an Alpine M1000. Yes they are pretty loud. Don't mind the red stripes lol.

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Sun May 16, 2010 10:12 pm

well thats what the amps max RMS at 2 ohm is, ill be turning it down slightly to 400W RMS.. my bad

nineball · Post by **nineball** » Sun May 16, 2010 11:01 pm

why are you buying 2 mono amps when you only need 1? the cvr are dual 2ohm subs so you can have a final load of 2ohm, which will have the amp produce 1000 watts / 2 subs = 500 to each.

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Mon May 17, 2010 12:31 am

because its 1000W @ 1ohm, 550 @ 2 ohm
the subs are 1 ohm stable but i dont want to wire them down to 1 ohm because i want to keep the clarity of the sound.

nineball · Post by **nineball** » Mon May 17, 2010 12:37 am

according to the bestbuy site they only sell 1 kicker 1000 watt mono amp and the specs said it was 1000x1 @ 2ohm. if that info is wrong then maybe look into buying some subs that are dual 4ohm instead. you may be getting the discount but why spend more money than you need? you will also be making life much easier later when you need to upgrade your charging system on the car to power a pair of those amps. maybe even take the extra cash and get an amp for your interior speakers.

ohm load does not affect clarity.

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Mon May 17, 2010 12:57 am

Model DX1000.1

RMS Power in Watts, all channels driven @14.4 Volts, 4Ω mono, ≤ 1% THD+N 280
@ 2Ω mono, ≤ 1% THD+N 550
@ 1Ω mono, ≤ 1% THD+N 1000

straight from the kicker site dude. and i was going by what my installer was telling me because with his 10 years exp. he said alwyas lowering the impedance made the bass less "crisp" sounding

nineball · Post by **nineball** » Mon May 17, 2010 10:49 am

straight from the bestbuy site DUDE, where you said you are shopping, are the specs of the only kicker mono 1000 watt amp:

Equip your vehicle with 1000W of sound amplification with this amplifier that features variable low-pass and high-pass subsonic filters with top-mounted controls for sound customization and a high-density convection heat sink for heat dissipation.
What's Included

* Kicker ZX Series 1000W Class D Mono MOSFET Amplifier with Low-Pass Crossover
* Owner's manual

Product Features

* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores
* Geek Squad® installation is strongly recommended for this product. Please visit your local Best Buy store for details.
* Handles up to 1000W RMS continuous power @ 2 ohms or 500W RMS @ 4 ohms
To equip your car stereo system with sonic power.
* Variable low-pass and high-pass subsonic filters
With top-mounted controls, along with boost and gain controls and a tuned bass EQ with up to 18dB bass boost at 40Hz, make it easy to customize sound output.
* 2- and 4-ohm impedance support
Conducts power evenly to keep the speaker at an appropriate level.
* 25-200Hz frequency response
For faithful low-frequency sound reproduction.
* Muting circuit
Cancels noise interference to improve sound quality.
* High-density convection heat sink
Dissipates heat for enhanced operation. Optional vinyl skins (not included) let you easily personalize the look of the heat sink.
* 3 automatic turn-on modes
Including remote, DC offset and signal sense, along with gold-plated, balanced differential RCA level inputs and RCA preamp outputs for compatibility with a variety of car stereo installations.
* LED power and protection indicators
Keep you apprised of the amplifier's status.

your installer is wrong.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Mon May 17, 2010 10:54 am

That's why I don't buy Car Audio from best buy.

Nothing against best buy, but the guys around me usually try to sell shit, that they don't have a clue about.

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:47 pm

nineball: the amp youre looking at and the amp im getting are 2 different amps. the one the bestbuy in the states sells is the ZX the one we sell in canada is the DX
thats why the info is different
or the american bestbuy site is effed because even on the info card at my work it says the specs im going by.

nineball · Post by **nineball** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:50 pm

gotcha. you would still be better off getting a pair of dual 4ohm subs and wiring them down to 1ohm. it would not only save you money but it would be less of a draw on your electrical system (vs 2 sub amps), and you will be putting a massive load on it already. i run a pdx 4.100 and 1.1000, all power/ground/engine grounds in 0g, stinger spv44 under the hood and a kinteik hc600 in the trunk and i still get dimming at the upper end of my system's abilities.

your installer is completely wrong and ohm load has absolutely nothing to do with the bass sounding different. the only thing that will directly affect the sound (other than your equipment and power) would be the enclosure, and only then to a trained ear. generally speaking a ported enclosure will be approx. 3db louder vs a sealed enclosure but that is not always the case and is dependent on the sub's characteristics (some do not like being ported). a lot of people buy into the myth that sealed gives you "tighter" bass than ported but that is an old wives tale. if properly designed and built you will not be able to tell a difference.

xbrandonx · Post by **xbrandonx** » Mon May 17, 2010 7:00 pm

so. basically from what i thought i was only able to order what we carried at the store.. but come to it i talked to our kicker rep and im able to order product that we dont carry. so now im getting the ZX1000.1 which you were talking about to begin with.... thanks for the advice aha

nineball · Post by **nineball** » Mon May 17, 2010 7:32 pm

nice. good luck.