How-To: HVAC Light replacement
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How-To: HVAC Light replacement
After looking at all the talk on replacing the cluster bulbs with LED's I went ahead and pull the HVAC assembly apart and create a how to for all you mechanciy inept.
For the cluster bulbs see the great write up by daaboots http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=12095
We begin with a good look at the center console assembly. Start off by removing anything you have plugged in my case a radar detector.
Next we need to remove the vents. I find the best way is to sick my fingers into the vents (dont worry they flex) bend the ends of my fingers slightly and pull straight back.
Now we have 2 phillip screws to remove out of the vent ducts.
Now go ahead and pull the knobs off. If they dont want to come off dont worry about it Ill tell you a way to get them off in a second.
If you cant pull the knobs off, slip your fingers under the bottom edge of the surround and pull out. The knobs will pop off.
What you are now looking at is the HVAC control assembly. You can see 2 phillip head screws (one on each side) holding it all together. Go ahead and remove those.
EDIT: Aparently the bulb replacement can be done w/o going any farther. Thx 01WhiteNe0n.
The whole thing will come about just a few inches. There is a plug on both sides. The one on the right is a simple rubber plug. ~~NOTE~~Pay attention as to how it looks. I wasnt paying attention and it messed me up puttin it back in.
The plug on the left side has a press tab on the top. Squeeze, wiggle, and remove.
You will notice that the assembly is now held in by the adjustment rods. I disassembled everything and took individual pics after as trying to do it all at once and take pix was a pain w/ one person.
First I removed the cable on the left side.. You will see a metal tab above the cable. on the bottom side there is a prong that you will need to press and the tab will pop up.
the tab will look similar to this here
It is then a simple matter of rotating the cable left to the small lit in the arm and sliding it out.
Now you can tilt the assembly forward and slide the other adjuster cable out.
Now the assembly is free of restriction and you can see on the backside 2 of the 3 bulb sockets.
the third is slightly hidden
You can remove the bulbs by hand if you have good strong fingernails. If not you can ust a small pair of needle nose plyers. for the third bulb im going to recommend a very small flathead screwdriver.
To install simply reverse the steps you used to get it apart.
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If I have missed anything or would like more info on anything let me know and ill do what I can to help.[/u][/b]
For the cluster bulbs see the great write up by daaboots http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=12095
We begin with a good look at the center console assembly. Start off by removing anything you have plugged in my case a radar detector.
Next we need to remove the vents. I find the best way is to sick my fingers into the vents (dont worry they flex) bend the ends of my fingers slightly and pull straight back.
Now we have 2 phillip screws to remove out of the vent ducts.
Now go ahead and pull the knobs off. If they dont want to come off dont worry about it Ill tell you a way to get them off in a second.
If you cant pull the knobs off, slip your fingers under the bottom edge of the surround and pull out. The knobs will pop off.
What you are now looking at is the HVAC control assembly. You can see 2 phillip head screws (one on each side) holding it all together. Go ahead and remove those.
EDIT: Aparently the bulb replacement can be done w/o going any farther. Thx 01WhiteNe0n.
The whole thing will come about just a few inches. There is a plug on both sides. The one on the right is a simple rubber plug. ~~NOTE~~Pay attention as to how it looks. I wasnt paying attention and it messed me up puttin it back in.
The plug on the left side has a press tab on the top. Squeeze, wiggle, and remove.
You will notice that the assembly is now held in by the adjustment rods. I disassembled everything and took individual pics after as trying to do it all at once and take pix was a pain w/ one person.
First I removed the cable on the left side.. You will see a metal tab above the cable. on the bottom side there is a prong that you will need to press and the tab will pop up.
the tab will look similar to this here
It is then a simple matter of rotating the cable left to the small lit in the arm and sliding it out.
Now you can tilt the assembly forward and slide the other adjuster cable out.
Now the assembly is free of restriction and you can see on the backside 2 of the 3 bulb sockets.
the third is slightly hidden
You can remove the bulbs by hand if you have good strong fingernails. If not you can ust a small pair of needle nose plyers. for the third bulb im going to recommend a very small flathead screwdriver.
To install simply reverse the steps you used to get it apart.
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If I have missed anything or would like more info on anything let me know and ill do what I can to help.[/u][/b]
Last edited by MoparNeonMan on Wed May 30, 2007 6:00 am, edited 3 times in total.
me and my car have a give and take relationship
it gives me shite and i take it
nice write up
I was surprised at how easy it was to get th hvac apart when I painted my bezel last year.
I was surprised at how easy it was to get th hvac apart when I painted my bezel last year.
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Well, I ordered 13 BLUE led's from superbrightleds.com, the wide ones (WLED), so hopefully I can do the whole dash, gauges, and HVAC Thansk for the how-to!! You rock-on guys!
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Just did mine today looks hot Got the cluster and the hvac done.. Still need to do the defroster and the shifter... had 2 left over 74's and took apart center consol to find out I need a 194 for it.
I'll go take pics quick.
And in the hvac dont go through the trouble of taking it off your can take out the bulbs w/o removing.
I'll go take pics quick.
And in the hvac dont go through the trouble of taking it off your can take out the bulbs w/o removing.
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Very good write up, just did mine today. My friend couldn't believe how easily the center console came apart.
And to latief: mine were from Autolumination and they looked almost the same. My friend modded them to get them to fit so they weren't drop-in replacements like the cluster leds. Not sure what he did but he used a dremel (not sure if that's what it's called in English) to kind of cut more wire to show from the bottom and then we just put them back in like the bulbs were originally. The leds were still higher then the bulbs but nontheless fit well and lighted up okay.
And to latief: mine were from Autolumination and they looked almost the same. My friend modded them to get them to fit so they weren't drop-in replacements like the cluster leds. Not sure what he did but he used a dremel (not sure if that's what it's called in English) to kind of cut more wire to show from the bottom and then we just put them back in like the bulbs were originally. The leds were still higher then the bulbs but nontheless fit well and lighted up okay.
I don't think so. The bulbs I got from VampofVegas had bulbs like that, but in a smaller base. He didn't list the bulb number, and I don't see the correct type on Superbrightled's site. However, I did come across this...
Might want to check this site out...a lot more info and selection
http://autolumination.com/srt4.htm
Hope this helps.
Might want to check this site out...a lot more info and selection
http://autolumination.com/srt4.htm
Hope this helps.
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...
http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/74_t15.htm
this seems similar, anyone have further info about this?
i will try to retorfit the ones i have tomorrow, lets see what happens....
Edit: Fixed it, mainly looking at the (B8.5D Twist Lock lamp)
this seems similar, anyone have further info about this?
i will try to retorfit the ones i have tomorrow, lets see what happens....
Edit: Fixed it, mainly looking at the (B8.5D Twist Lock lamp)
Last edited by latief on Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:56 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Cool. I saw that too. None of the bulbs they show there look like what I used. Mine looked more like the Autolumination ones I linked. Doesn't help at the moment, but I can pull one of mine out, take a pic, and post it here tomorrow night
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...
so i managed to retorfit these to work, they look like crap . i need to buy a new set...
so can someone please show me/ let me know what 74 bulbs to buy? they have to come with sockets since mine are destoyed now ...
also , what is the deal with the rear defrost bulb? is that 74 also ? it looked very strange today and differnet than the other HVAC bulbs ...
thanks,
so can someone please show me/ let me know what 74 bulbs to buy? they have to come with sockets since mine are destoyed now ...
also , what is the deal with the rear defrost bulb? is that 74 also ? it looked very strange today and differnet than the other HVAC bulbs ...
thanks,
latief if you need new socket things too just get the ones from autolumination
get the 10mm Neowedge LED ones for 2.99 each.. do not get the regular glass Neowedge 74 bulbs because its dull as crap.. i just got my order today of the LED and the bulb and its no comparison.. bulb sucks, LED is as bright as my original LED + resistor method of doing it
as for that B8.5D Twist Lock lamp you mentioned, if you were asking if that would work.. i think it might work for 2 of them, possibly, but the one in the middle of the hvac has that metal piece that moves behind the bulb socket so that B8.5D would stick out too far and would be in the way.. the Neowedge base fits like OEM (and like i said, the 10mm is what you need)
now for my problem
can anyone tell me how the gear thing for the fresh air/recirculate knob is supposed to be.. i messed something up tonight (and i didnt even take the whole thing apart like this how-to) and the gear just turns and pushes in and out, im not sure what its supposed to be attached to / turning to actually function properly
get the 10mm Neowedge LED ones for 2.99 each.. do not get the regular glass Neowedge 74 bulbs because its dull as crap.. i just got my order today of the LED and the bulb and its no comparison.. bulb sucks, LED is as bright as my original LED + resistor method of doing it
as for that B8.5D Twist Lock lamp you mentioned, if you were asking if that would work.. i think it might work for 2 of them, possibly, but the one in the middle of the hvac has that metal piece that moves behind the bulb socket so that B8.5D would stick out too far and would be in the way.. the Neowedge base fits like OEM (and like i said, the 10mm is what you need)
now for my problem
can anyone tell me how the gear thing for the fresh air/recirculate knob is supposed to be.. i messed something up tonight (and i didnt even take the whole thing apart like this how-to) and the gear just turns and pushes in and out, im not sure what its supposed to be attached to / turning to actually function properly
Last edited by jT on Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
Well, not 1000% sure, but I don't think you can buy that gear drive separate if it is broken, Chrysler sells the whole control head. I won't be able to confirm this until Monday thoughjT wrote: now for my problem
can anyone tell me how the gear thing for the fresh air/recirculate knob is supposed to be.. i messed something up tonight (and i didnt even take the whole thing apart like this how-to) and the gear just turns and pushes in and out, im not sure what its supposed to be attached to / turning to actually function properly
As far as if it just not in place right, I would have to see a picture.
On another note, not to knock the original how-to, but I thought I'd post the FSM method of the vent removal...
Pull the vent downward
By pulling from the top, remove the outer side (it comes out easier)
And remove
While I was there, here is where I installed my center duct LED's
Last edited by Danteneon on Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
If I could just figure out how to meld the Outback and the Neon into one car...