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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:49 pm
by D-Railed_Neon
Awesome thats what I thought. Thanks OD I appreciate it man. I knew about the spade connectors popping into the pdc so you might be onto something and I might look into running a relay.

Still open for any input but thanks for the idea.

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:18 pm
by sidepipe87
D-Railed_Neon wrote:bump to revive. I have an 03 that came without fogs but last time I was under the car i believe I saw two connections where the fogs would go and a harness covered in the black plastic cable protector. Does anyone know if the 03s came with the harness regardless of whether or not it came with fogs? Will it be a simple plug fogs in, switch MFS, and insert proper fuse, or do I have a bit of jimmy rig wiring to do?

Here's what I know.... And I was surprised when I just read through this since I've added oem fogs to 2 non fog neons now and it was MUCH simpler than this kit. That said, both were 03+ like yours. It's a simple procedure.

Parts needed:
-LH and RH fog light assemblies (about $50 new DEPO/TYC etc on Rock Auto)
-03+ MFS with Fog option. (around $68 from Auto Zone... it's a reboxed Mopar switch has the PN and all)
-03+ fog light wiring pigtail. This will plug into that connector you see taped up under the car by the core support and then to both fog lights. (don't know if you can buy new, I've always bought used from part outs)
-03+ fog light bumper (price obviously varies esp if you need to pay to paint it)

Install parts, check your fuse box to make sure fuses are in there for the fog lights, turn your headlight switch on and pull the dial out away from the stalk and enjoy your fog lights! :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:22 pm
by D-Railed_Neon
awesome. I know the bulb connector is the same for all 2gns. The car is an 03 but i will be running an 02 front end and fogs. I will be purchasing the bumper, both fogs, and a 04 MFS with fog option in the next two weeks. So id sounds like I should just need the 03+ fog light wiring pigtail and I should be good to go.....right?


Thanks for the help guys!

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:25 pm
by sidepipe87
If you're running 02 front end, then you will want an 02 or earlier fog light harness then. The difference is at the plugs for the fog lights. 02 has different connectors than the 03 so if you get the wrong year harness you will have to wire new ends on to match your fogs.

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:28 pm
by D-Railed_Neon
sidepipe87 wrote:If you're running 02 front end, then you will want an 02 or earlier fog light harness then. The difference is at the plugs for the fog lights. 02 has different connectors than the 03 so if you get the wrong year harness you will have to wire new ends on to match your fogs.
OK so I will need the 00-02 fog pigtail harness but, everything else in my list should be pretty much plug and play then?

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:02 pm
by sidepipe87
Correct

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:00 pm
by neongirl87
I have an 03 sxt without fogs, I want to install some, I'm going to start off by buying the sxt bumper with fogs lol

i want this look

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will these work?

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which ones will look better?

I want either 6k or 8k HIDS for the headlights and fogs

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:23 pm
by Ramroid
neongirl87 wrote:I have an 03 sxt without fogs, I want to install some, I'm going to start off by buying the sxt bumper with fogs lol

i want this look

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will these work?

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Image

Image

which ones will look better?

I want either 6k or 8k HIDS for the headlights and fogs
If you're wanting HID foglights, you'll have to run a relay harness. I upgraded my foglights to HIDS and ran a relay harness as an extra bit of security. Any kind of universal foglight will work, but if you're wanting to run HIDS, the relay is always a good idea.

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:11 am
by neongirl87
Ramroid wrote:
neongirl87 wrote:I have an 03 sxt without fogs, I want to install some, I'm going to start off by buying the sxt bumper with fogs lol

i want this look

Image[/url]


will these work?

Image

Image

Image

which ones will look better?

I want either 6k or 8k HIDS for the headlights and fogs
If you're wanting HID foglights, you'll have to run a relay harness. I upgraded my foglights to HIDS and ran a relay harness as an extra bit of security. Any kind of universal foglight will work, but if you're wanting to run HIDS, the relay is always a good idea.

ok so i would need 4 6 or 8k bulbs, 4 ballasts (for heads and fogs)

1 or 2 relays harnesses for the heads and fogs?

any other recomendations ? the side markers

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:48 pm
by occasional demons
Most HID kits come with the bulbs, ballasts and harnesses. You will need to retrofit HID projectors into your headlights to do the headlights correctly.

Depot projectors will work, but are not 100% correct for HID's but are a much better option (for oncoming traffic) than just putting HID bulbs in your factory style incandescent housings.

And just a tip: The bluer the light, the less real visibility you will have. If you really want better lighting, stick with 4000 to 5000 kelvin. If you don't care about visibility, and just appearance, then do what you like. Just don't put HID bulbs in your factory style incandescent housings.

If you can't afford new headlight housings, then please do not HID bulbs in your headlights. The projector fogs are fine, as they have a cut off for fog use.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:21 am
by neongirl87
occasional demons wrote:Most HID kits come with the bulbs, ballasts and harnesses. You will need to retrofit HID projectors into your headlights to do the headlights correctly.

Depot projectors will work, but are not 100% correct for HID's but are a much better option (for oncoming traffic) than just putting HID bulbs in your factory style incandescent housings.

And just a tip: The bluer the light, the less real visibility you will have. If you really want better lighting, stick with 4000 to 5000 kelvin. If you don't care about visibility, and just appearance, then do what you like. Just don't put HID bulbs in your factory style incandescent housings.

If you can't afford new headlight housings, then please do not HID bulbs in your headlights. The projector fogs are fine, as they have a cut off for fog use.
ok, but how many harnesses will i need 2?

4 ballasts and 2 relays?

i'll probably go with 6k

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:02 am
by occasional demons
If you buy a kit, (Recommended here) the harness and everything else will come with. You may need to do some tweaking of the wiring, as some harnesses aren't correct, IIRC from some of the HID threads.

You can buy better bulbs later, as I have heard that the bulbs that come in the kits are not always the best quality depending on what you buy. But they will work to get the bugs ironed out.

But the cheap ebay ones will work, and they will give you some kind of experience, so if you move on to better things, you won't be totally clueless. Look at it like a cheap education. :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:14 pm
by neongirl87
oh ok, well i had HID"s on my last car that a friend installed from ddr tuning? I don't like buying from ebay

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:56 pm
by FAC3L3SS
neongirl87 wrote:oh ok, well i had HID"s on my last car that a friend installed from ddr tuning? I don't like buying from ebay
Why is this? eBay isn't a brand.

Buy the same brand crap you were going to buy anyway, just get in on eBay and save a few bones.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:02 pm
by occasional demons
I would buy from ebay long before buying from Amazon.

There is no incentive for Amazon sellers to get stuff shipped in a timely manner, and my past experience from Amazon sellers backs that one up 100%.

But since this is about fog lights, back to the topic.... /rant.

If said friend is still available, buy what's needed, and have them verbally guide you with the install, instead of having said friend do it.