not sure if this was meant for me, but the standard neon fogs only function when on low beam. i am still using my stock mfs with my srt fogs.rice_eater wrote:did you check that one of the relays didnt go bad or is unplugged?
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Yes this switch mod does allow you to run your fogs with your high beams. If you jumper pins 13 and 19 like in the how-to, your fogs are now connected to a full-time 12V lead rather than just a low-beam 12V lead like stock. When you switch your fogs on, they're on regardless of whether you have just ambers, low beams, or high beams.SGT BRAD wrote:does this mod also allow you to run fogs and high beams together? i have an srt front swap with the piaa d/l and wish i could run them along with the high beams when i'm out in the country. thanks.
This is a great mod and I'm glad I finally got a chance to do it.
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yeah but all that means is that there's signal coming to the foglight relay to put them on when the low beams are on... on daytime running lights models there's yet another relay inline that gets continuous power so keeps the fogs always onSGT BRAD wrote:not sure if this was meant for me, but the standard neon fogs only function when on low beam. i am still using my stock mfs with my srt fogs.rice_eater wrote:did you check that one of the relays didnt go bad or is unplugged?
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Almost sure you could.SGT BRAD wrote:if i jumper 13 to 19 with my stock mfs will i be able to run the fogs and high beams? sorry to highjack the thread. thanks.
brad
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Amen bro. It's great for driving to work early in the morning when it's just light enough that you still want them on.BlackRoseRacing wrote:I run my fogs/driving lights almost 90% of the time with this mod Vs running my headlights all the time. Ive had this on my car for almost a year without any problems.
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As for the method of cutting the pink & green / purple & white wires and switching them, I just tried it in my SXT and it works great. I have pictures of the process- maybe we could compose a more simplified How To in it's own thread for others to follow. Images:
Access to fuse box
Do NOT remove these screws, as I figured out by trial and error.
THESE are the correct screws to remove in order to gain access to the wires to cut.
Fuse box pulled out.
Pull back the wrap and remove the electrical tape.
Cut and strip the PINK / GREEN wire...
...Then do the same for the PURPLE / WHITE one.
After crossing the wires and taping it all back up, this is the result when the headlights are turned two clicks (1- Parking, 2- Is now FOGS).
Look closer and you can see that the headlights are not on, but the parking lights and fog lights are.
Just a shot to show the unmodified switch. Notice that it is turned on to what is normally HEADLIGHTS, but the FOG LIGHT indicator is lit up on the cluster.
Also, my [ headlights + door opened = chime ] still works.
http://kctrio.com/john/7%2029%2007%20Fo ... thumb.html
Access to fuse box
Do NOT remove these screws, as I figured out by trial and error.
THESE are the correct screws to remove in order to gain access to the wires to cut.
Fuse box pulled out.
Pull back the wrap and remove the electrical tape.
Cut and strip the PINK / GREEN wire...
...Then do the same for the PURPLE / WHITE one.
After crossing the wires and taping it all back up, this is the result when the headlights are turned two clicks (1- Parking, 2- Is now FOGS).
Look closer and you can see that the headlights are not on, but the parking lights and fog lights are.
Just a shot to show the unmodified switch. Notice that it is turned on to what is normally HEADLIGHTS, but the FOG LIGHT indicator is lit up on the cluster.
Also, my [ headlights + door opened = chime ] still works.
http://kctrio.com/john/7%2029%2007%20Fo ... thumb.html
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BlackRoseRacing wrote:Pics will be up later, but....
YES it will work!!!!!
I will be installing it into my car tonight when I get home from work. There is only one draw back though...
The PT cruiser uses a larger Hazard button than a neon wich means.....
1 - You either have to swap the hazzard buttons between switches(pain)
or
2 - Purchase either:
SC06XDVAC - Dark Slate $18.25list
SC06WL8AC - Taupe $17.50list
These are the upper shroud part numbers for the PT wich will accomadate the larger hazzard button.....
That its...oh...the PT mulitfunction switch runs $$74.60list price...
I'll get pics posted as soon as I do the install....
Dood im jealous of how resourceful you are. I guess it doesn't hellp um used to the POOR a$$ area of SouthWestern Pennsylvania either, right! lmao
Thanks for the redirect dood, this is a future reference, I'm broke right now... =( SH***T![/u]
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No problem...
As for swapping the switch buttons, its notreally that bad if you take your time. As for pictures on the setup, I have rescently aquired my old DVD back from California, it was sent there for data recovery and I personally have recovered more files off the disc than they did, so hopefully I might be able to dig up the old photos...
As for swapping the switch buttons, its notreally that bad if you take your time. As for pictures on the setup, I have rescently aquired my old DVD back from California, it was sent there for data recovery and I personally have recovered more files off the disc than they did, so hopefully I might be able to dig up the old photos...
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So you want:
* ambers + fogs
* ambers + fogs + headlights
Would you ever want to have just ambers, or just regular headlights? I ask because if you want your fogs on all the time (other than when the switch is off), then you wouldn't even need a fog-light specific switch to do that. Pretty simply actually.
* ambers + fogs
* ambers + fogs + headlights
Would you ever want to have just ambers, or just regular headlights? I ask because if you want your fogs on all the time (other than when the switch is off), then you wouldn't even need a fog-light specific switch to do that. Pretty simply actually.
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Just wire a relay into the parking light output.
Assuming you meant that vs the signals.
The parking light voltage will switch the relay. The relay will handle the fog light load and not melt your MFS. Just power the relay switch (fused) direct to the battery. The relay coil powered from the parking lights.
Assuming you meant that vs the signals.
The parking light voltage will switch the relay. The relay will handle the fog light load and not melt your MFS. Just power the relay switch (fused) direct to the battery. The relay coil powered from the parking lights.
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If that's all you're looking to do, then you can do that with your existing switch. Super easy. Get a single-pole automotive relay (4-pin) and wire it like this:
Pin 30: +12V battery
Pin 85: Ground
Pin 86: +12V from parking lights
Pin 87: +12V to fog lights
Make sure you don't accidentally wire pin 86 to the + side of the directionals. You'll have quite a rave in the front of your car if you do that!
Pin 30: +12V battery
Pin 85: Ground
Pin 86: +12V from parking lights
Pin 87: +12V to fog lights
Make sure you don't accidentally wire pin 86 to the + side of the directionals. You'll have quite a rave in the front of your car if you do that!
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thanks!jonnymopar wrote:If that's all you're looking to do, then you can do that with your existing switch. Super easy. Get a single-pole automotive relay (4-pin) and wire it like this:
Pin 30: +12V battery
Pin 85: Ground
Pin 86: +12V from parking lights
Pin 87: +12V to fog lights
Make sure you don't accidentally wire pin 86 to the + side of the directionals. You'll have quite a rave in the front of your car if you do that!