How-To: Forever Fix RICER FLASH!

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How-To: Forever Fix RICER FLASH!

Post by NiteHawk » Tue May 30, 2006 10:24 pm

Ok, after months of trial and error, I FINALLY have a REAL solution folks. Here's a quick write up for you!

First, remove the flasher relay from the multi-function switch by removing the 2 screws from the bottom of the cover under the steering wheel.

Next, You will see two tabs on 1 side and 1 tab on the other side holding the cover of the flasher in place. carefully pry this open so that the circuit board is exposed. (i wasnt so careful)
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On the back of the circuit board, you will notice a small IC Chip with 8 pins coming off of it. There's is a referance notch in the white line going around it to mark the "top" of the chip.

Pin layout in the picture is as follows

5 4
6 3
7 2
8 1 (note pin 7 trace and pin in red)

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Pin 7 is the Lamp Failure circuit, which is what causes the ricer flash when replacing bulbs with LED's. This is the circuit we are going to disable. To do so, take an X-Acto knife and either break the pin where it meets the circuit board, or cut through the copper wire on the circuit board itself to make sure that it is completely disconnected.

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Once you've done this, put the cover back on, reinstall into the multi-function switch, and you're DONE! NO MORE FAST FLASH!

I realise this will defiantly upset some vendors now that they dont get to sell their resistors anymore, but in all honesty, this is the SAFEST solution to fast flash...
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Post by SlvrACR » Tue May 30, 2006 10:32 pm

Nice idea. Glad someone had a better solution
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Post by Canada » Tue May 30, 2006 10:53 pm

And this definetely works?? you've tried it and everything? Is this for front and rear LED or just front? Great write up dood! This is a great idea!!

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Post by NiteHawk » Tue May 30, 2006 11:36 pm

this definatly works, its working right now on my car :D

this solved the problem no matter what you do, front, rear, whatever
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Wed May 31, 2006 5:46 am

The ricer flash is also a kinda warning mechanism incase you have a blown bulb it flashes the signals fast...
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Post by Mopar00Neon » Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:54 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:The ricer flash is also a kinda warning mechanism incase you have a blown bulb it flashes the signals fast...
Otherwise good info!
But if you're a responsible car owner, you will check your lights periodically to be sure all the lights work, tires are inflated and not worn, brakes work, etc.

Of course we all know how many responsible car owners are out there. :roll: :lol:
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Post by eastwoodsn352 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:03 pm

ricer flash? what r u talking about?
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Post by NiteHawk » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:59 pm

ricer flash is the fast flashing you get when you replace front or rear turn signal incandecent bulbs with LED's....(or if you have a dead bulb).
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Post by jonnymopar » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:40 pm

Ricer Flash. Best name for it yet.

Good write up!
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Post by Dutch_Neon » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:11 am

I experienced the ricer flash when 1 of my bulbs was a goner. Lasted about 10 seconds, then the damn fuse blew out.

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Post by scneonchic » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:01 am

Im going to have to try this out this weekend. I have the 'ricer flash' on mine now, since I switched to LED tail light bulbs. Its getting quite annoying :lol:

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Post by spencersummerfield » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:19 am

anyone done this with a 2000 Neon my flasher relay is way different.. can I just swap a flasher relay from say a 2003 neon into my 2000. will it work??
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Post by spencersummerfield » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:41 am

for all of you like me that didnt have this style flasher relay , just go to the wreckers and grab one from a 2002 or what ever, and it is interchangable, mod works great!!
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Post by azenomei » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:35 am

this could also be solved by using proper resistors with the leds (leds almost always use less power then a bulb)

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Post by NiteHawk » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:18 am

i dont want to come off like an ass, but you couldnt be more wrong...

our flashers have a fast flash circuit built into them, it's a load dependant circuit. when there's a heavy load(indicating to it that all bulbs are functional) it blinks propperly, but when a bulb is out, the load is off, thus it flashes fast to let you know you have a dead bulb.

using a differant resistor on the circuit board wont change anything, because the led's are still using a VERY minimal ammount of power. The other "resistor" alternative is whats called a Load Equalizer, basically, one BIG f'in resistor that you connect to the turn signal + and then ground to the chassis. These are dangerous because of the very large amount of heat they produce and any company that sells them for this purpose all have a note saying something to the effect of "DO NOT LET COME IN CONTACT WITH PLASTIC OR PAINTED SURFACES".

My business is led lighting, trust me on this.....i woudnt give yall misinformation
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Post by azenomei » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:52 pm

hehehe thnx, saved me from doin something stupid :)

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Post by t vago » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:52 pm

spencersummerfield wrote:anyone done this with a 2000 Neon my flasher relay is way different.. can I just swap a flasher relay from say a 2003 neon into my 2000. will it work??
Actually, I tried this mod on my 2000 flasher after looking up the chip datasheet for the little 8-pin DIP chip that controls the flasher. IIRC, the left/right turn signals worked normally, but the hazard lamp function buzzed very rapidly before burning out the hazard lamp fuse. I might have to try this again to verify.

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Post by opyr8yr » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:02 pm

Ricer flash, lol. So true. I've seen many guys enable it on purpose.

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Post by krc21 » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:03 pm

what is a ricer flash? sorry noob here
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Post by racer12306 » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:04 pm

NiteHawk wrote:ricer flash is the fast flashing you get when you replace front or rear turn signal incandecent bulbs with LED's....(or if you have a dead bulb).
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:08 am

holy post resurection :lol:
Its good to see a newbie resurect an old post Vs starting a new one :)
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Post by ZeroChad » Wed May 21, 2008 1:41 pm

Has anyone else tried this? I broke the connection at lunch today, and it gave me ricer flash!

All of my bulbs are working (incandescent). I was going to do this before I threw in my LEDs.
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Post by Danteneon » Wed May 21, 2008 1:51 pm

I haven't yet. I was planning to do this as well once I get my LED's as well.
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Post by spencersummerfield » Wed May 21, 2008 2:47 pm

ZeroChad wrote:Has anyone else tried this? I broke the connection at lunch today, and it gave me ricer flash!

All of my bulbs are working (incandescent). I was going to do this before I threw in my LEDs.
I have had this done for the last 2 years no problems.

I have a 2000 and got a 2003 Flasher so that mine matched the picture.

After I cut the spot, my lights DID flash faster than stock. but NOT THAT fast...

and no matter my LED's or regular bulbs, my turn signals flash faster than normal, but not ricer fast.
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p.s. now I have EVERY bulb led no more incandescence anywhere.
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Post by ZeroChad » Wed May 21, 2008 3:06 pm

spencersummerfield wrote: After I cut the spot, my lights DID flash faster than stock. but NOT THAT fast...

and no matter my LED's or regular bulbs, my turn signals flash faster than normal, but not ricer fast.
:twisted:

p.s. now I have EVERY bulb led no more incandescence anywhere.
Ah. Maybe I'm just overreacting at the faster rate. I should be led powered by the end of the week too. Well all exept for the high beams :-P
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Post by NickKo » Wed May 21, 2008 8:32 pm

spencersummerfield wrote: I have had this done for the last 2 years no problems.

I have a 2000 and got a 2003 Flasher so that mine matched the picture.

After I cut the spot, my lights DID flash faster than stock. but NOT THAT fast...

and no matter my LED's or regular bulbs, my turn signals flash faster than normal, but not ricer fast.
:twisted:

p.s. now I have EVERY bulb led no more incandescence anywhere.
This is Awesome to know.
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Post by randomZERO » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:30 pm

Just did this about ten minutes ago and it works, it doesnt slow them down to stock but slows them down alot.

Good write up. :rockon:
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Post by Caraudioholic24 » Thu May 07, 2009 1:39 pm

Pics what happened to the pics?? I was going to do this for a friend. LOL Maybe someone saved them I hope.
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Post by N30N » Sun May 10, 2009 7:01 am

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Post by Sykora » Sun May 10, 2009 12:43 pm

umm what is Ricer Flash?
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