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Post by non-magnum » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:19 am

Some kind of a vapor leak, but I can't figure it out. Also when i'm driving and putting it in neutral my rpm's hangs in 1600, but when i completely stop on neutral it drops to 800 which is normal :?
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Post by Frizbe » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:06 pm

non-magnum wrote:Some kind of a vapor leak, but I can't figure it out. Also when i'm driving and putting it in neutral my rpm's hangs in 1600, but when i completely stop on neutral it drops to 800 which is normal :?
Any help would be appreciated

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Post by DjTransifi » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:23 pm

Same here... No codes.. I'm not gonna refer you over there but, I did remember reading something about it over at the .ORG
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Post by Diablo0 » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:25 pm

Check your gas cap to make sure it's tight along with the vacum line that runs from the throttle body to the purge solonoid along with all the EVAP lines at around the gas tank. The Vapor Canistor is also located back there so check to make sure the wiring is fine and you may wanna give it a little tap or two but nothing hard.

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Post by turbo neon 2002 » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:06 pm

ok a P0441 IS bigger leak then just the gas cap you might a hole in 1 of your EVAP lines. I worked on a CAVALER that had a mouse eat a hole in the line that went from the tank to the EVAP canister
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Can someone point me the right direction??

Post by Unknown-Destiny » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:20 pm

I had this code pop up today after my check engine light came on. Any help would be wonderful.

P0441 Evaporative Emission Control System Incorrect Purge Flow. where do I look to find the potential problem??
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:00 pm

replace the pursge solenoid :roll:
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Post by Unknown-Destiny » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:13 am

BlackRoseRacing wrote:replace the pursge solenoid :roll:
and where would that be located?
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Post by neontj » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:33 pm

in the back under the car i believe next to the canister. the rpms going up is probably normal as my car does it to.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:02 pm

^^^
In back is the leak detection pump, the purge solenoid SHOULD be under the hood, but I could be wrong....
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Post by Gr8ness13 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:03 pm

I took mine to the local delership the said it was covered by the 10yr powertrain!
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What Is it and how do I fix it? Is it the 02 sensor? if so which one?

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Post by sxlvr » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:31 pm

Manual says it's a downstream oxygen sensor heateror circuit fault. Not sure how to fix it. Might want ot search the forum for O2 related posts. Seems like I saw one in this section.
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Post by ZeroChad » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:33 pm

I get that code for not having one attached. Its most likely a faulty sensor or wiring.
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Post by v95 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:28 pm

P0441-EVAP PURGE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE

ok wtf went away for a while when i swapped gas caps and is now back. any ideas
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Post by occasional demons » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:16 pm

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P0441(M) Evap Purge Flow Monitor Insufficient or excessive vapor flow detected during evaporative emission system operation.

Maybe the purge solenoid is stuck open or shut.
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Post by thttxboy » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:41 pm

Man I hate obd II for this reason evap codes suck I had p0441 forever and I never really figured it out, the dealer swapped out the gas caps and some rubber hosses and nothing. My fix was doing my swap I never got the code since. But after thinking about it the only thing different thing that I changed was the evap canister

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Post by jonnymopar » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:32 am

This has been an intermittent code for me for over 3 years. Sometimes I'll reset it and it will come right back, and sometimes I'll reset it and it won't come back for 6 months. I've swapped the gas cap and it went away for a while, but it could have been coincidental. All hoses look fine. I removed the purge solenoid and tested it on my bench with a 12V supply and it works fine.

The only thing I haven't tried is replacing the NVLD. I have a brand new NVLD to try if it really starts to piss me off.
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Post by occasional demons » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:51 am

The funny thing is, I have not had the vacuum line to the purge solenoid hooked up since the crash. (Over a year). I just haven't felt the urge to replace the tube. I have not gotten one complaint from the PCM. It should be screaming insufficient flow! :runaway:
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Post by Chris04sxt » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:03 pm

P0441 Evaporative Emission Control System Incorrect Purge Flow

What's wrong and how do I fix it?
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Post by Chris04sxt » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:07 am

Holy shit!! A new solenoid is $58.35 guess it's time to hit up a JY.
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Post by jonnymopar » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:43 am

Chris04sxt wrote:Holy shit!! A new solenoid is $58.35 guess it's time to hit up a JY.
Yup. The NVLD I bought was over $70. Yay for fking meaningless emissions codes.
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Post by darthroush » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:57 pm

I've just been resetting my computer. Haven't had that code in several months now, knock on wood. It comes on, I reset the computer, and I don't see it again for a while. The next time it comes on, I'll give the NVLD a love tap with my 1" wrench and see what it does.

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Post by Chris04sxt » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:52 am

It went away on its own this morning. Maybe one of the huge ass potholes knocked whatever was sticking in the solenoid loose again. :D
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Post by Sabersoul » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:03 am

jonnymopar wrote:
Chris04sxt wrote:Holy shit!! A new solenoid is $58.35 guess it's time to hit up a JY.
Yup. The NVLD I bought was over $70. Yay for fking meaningless emissions codes.
This is what fixed it for me on my '03 when I had it. I had replaced the gas cap and purge solenoid prior and that didn't work. Though I only remember the NVLD costing me around $40 at the local stealership.

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Post by heydockyle » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:17 am

Chris04sxt wrote:It went away on its own this morning. Maybe one of the huge ass potholes knocked whatever was sticking in the solenoid loose again. :D
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Post by Chris04sxt » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:21 am

I know right. :D The roads have always been bad around here, but this is starting to get ridiculous. They are repaving streets that don't even need it and ignoring the ones that really do need done.
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Post by heydockyle » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:25 pm

Chris04sxt wrote:I know right. :D The roads have always been bad around here, but this is starting to get ridiculous. They are repaving streets that don't even need it and ignoring the ones that really do need done.
Ever been up OhioPyle?

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Post by GreeNeons03 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:51 pm

I got this code today, checked the gas cap and it looks good. Where's the NVLD and the purge solenoid?
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