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iceman issues

Post by r/tguy02 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:33 am

just switched from an AEM CAI setup to an Iceman setup in my 02 r/t.
everything fit fine with the AEM and my modern 60mm TB, but since installing the iceman its tighter than a virgins $%!& getting it together, and once installed the tube that goes through the fender is jammed up against the side of the hole and i know thats not good for it. My question is, is this normal? and if not what should i do about it? i guess i could cut the tube but wanted to make sure theres not something i'm overlooking. oh and yes its the proper iceman bellows tube for the magnum.
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Post by jrumann59 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:49 pm

are you sure the tube is 100% inserted. Sounds like it maybe just shy of full insertion.
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Re: iceman issues

Post by ckrock946 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:30 pm

r/tguy02 wrote: its tighter than a virgins $%!&.
jrumann59 wrote: Sounds like it maybe just shy of full insertion.
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Post by r/tguy02 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:08 pm

Lol Yes everything is pushed together all the way
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Post by NickKo » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:05 pm

Installing the Iceman intake into the 2nd gen Neon, is kind of 'problematic', because it is so long.



1 ). I 'cut' mine - to make 'servicing' a bit easier.
[NOTE: I did not shorten it - I only cut it, to make it a 'two-piece' unit.]

By making it shorter, and cutting it into two pieces, removal and re-installation, is a bit easier.

I re-installed the 'cut' iceman, using a rubber transition adapter, like the kind that AEM sells.
When I need to remove the intake for any reason, I can remove the adapter, and take the Iceman out in two pieces.

I will take some pics later, and post them up here. :)
It will make more sense.



2 ). I raided the junkyard, for a large 'rubber isolator', that I used to 'sleeve' the Iceman inside the hole where it goes through the fenderwell.
I did this to help protect the iceman; and also to improve 'fitment' and keep it from moving around.

What I ended up with, was a large rubber isolator from another MoPar product.
I believe it is a MoPar part (from an Intrepid??) that is fitted to the headlamp assembly.
I have not tried to verify what car they came from, but I usually find them laying on the ground, in the vicinity of Intrepids that are in the junkyard.
Anybody else know what part I am talking about ?? :) I don't have any pics of that.....


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Post by r/tguy02 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:31 am

Thanks for the idea nikko Def post some pics see I can see where you cut it
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Post by NickKo » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:54 am

I took some pics, will post them later.
Stay tuned.....


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-2000 Ply.LX w/MTX = Maddog STS; CAI; 2.5 exh.; 60mm T/B
-2001 ATX w/Syked PCM + Magnum header
-2001 ACR w/SRT T/B bored out to 55mm

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Post by NickKo » Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:59 pm

Finally ... Here's my pic.
Apologies for the delay.


The part where I have it circled, is where I 'cut' and sectioned the Iceman.
I then coupled it back together, using a rubber AEM 'sleeve' for Cold Air Intake installations, and used 3 hose clamps, for tightening & rigidity.

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When I need to remove the iceman, I unscrew the clamps, and slide the sleeve to one side.
The shortened part, is easier to remove through the wheelwell.
It is less clumsy, than trying to have to deal with getting the entire 1-piece through the hole & wheelwell.


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-2000 Ply.LX w/MTX = Maddog STS; CAI; 2.5 exh.; 60mm T/B
-2001 ATX w/Syked PCM + Magnum header
-2001 ACR w/SRT T/B bored out to 55mm

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Post by r/tguy02 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:55 am

thanks for that nickko, i'll follow suit
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Post by jonnymopar » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:37 pm

You've definitely got the angled piece for between the throttle body and the manifold, right? I only ask because I didn't modify mine at all and it fits great. I don't have a Magnum though.
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Post by Hudson_Neon » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:15 pm

the mag iceman and the standard iceman were different. there was a "bent" piece between the throttle body and the intake on the mag setup, while the standard sohc had a straight tube. this may be causing issues for you

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Post by NickKo » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:06 pm

jonnymopar wrote:You've definitely got the angled piece for between the throttle body and the manifold, right? I only ask because I didn't modify mine at all and it fits great. I don't have a Magnum though.
On mine - I have the 'regular' piece.
I don't know about r/tguy02, however.

Regardless - 'Sectioning' the Iceman, makes removal and installation easier.



- Nick
-1998 2-dr SOHC MTX= 57mm TB; Maddog STS
-2000 Ply.LX w/MTX = Maddog STS; CAI; 2.5 exh.; 60mm T/B
-2001 ATX w/Syked PCM + Magnum header
-2001 ACR w/SRT T/B bored out to 55mm

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Post by r/tguy02 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:18 am

NickKo wrote:
jonnymopar wrote:You've definitely got the angled piece for between the throttle body and the manifold, right? I only ask because I didn't modify mine at all and it fits great. I don't have a Magnum though.
On mine - I have the 'regular' piece.
I don't know about r/tguy02, however.

Regardless - 'Sectioning' the Iceman, makes removal and installation easier.
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r/tguy02 wrote:oh and yes its the proper iceman bellows tube for the magnum.
yes the one with the bend
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Post by jonnymopar » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:03 am

r/tguy02 wrote:oh and yes its the proper iceman bellows tube for the magnum.
Grrr... reading fail.
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