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Gauges went plop D:

Post by l3utteredTOAST » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:08 am

i got on 01 neon es with K&N CAI and i swapped the steelies for SRT-4 rims. so one day in winter get in start it up. and i get almost outta my neighborhood and i notice my speedo isnt working the temp isnt either and my fuel is all bouncy. 20 mins down the road it comes back on. flashes a code and poof they are out again. so i looked on here and i swapped with a 02-03 cluster (thinking that the cluster was bad) and same exact thing. anyone help! need it back asap! :banghead:

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Post by RobsProjectSOHC » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:38 am

What is the code that comes up?
Key dance - off / on / off / on / off / on
sounds like a short some where.
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Post by Public Disturbance » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:51 pm

Mine did the same thing once disconect your baby reset the pcm and you should be good

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Post by l3utteredTOAST » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:19 pm

lol key dance didnt work and this may sound rookieish but what do you mean by baby and reset the PCM? :tardbang:

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Post by mopar2 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:49 pm

I'm thinkin he meant battery.
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Post by l3utteredTOAST » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:01 pm

Ha that would make a hell of alot more sense :thumbup:

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Post by mjrpaine » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:09 pm

Gotta love auto correct ... LMAO
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Post by l3utteredTOAST » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:06 pm

I disconnected the negative battery cable and turned key to on for a good minute. Hooked it back up and nothing new. I'm gonna check all the wiring tomorrow hopefully.

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Post by occasional demons » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:57 pm

Remove the cluster, and check the connector.

Possibly this code: P1687 No Cluster BUS Message No J1850 messages received from the Mechanical Instrument Cluster (MIC) module

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pin 2: PCI bus.
10 ground.
21 and 15 (+)


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Post by Public Disturbance » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:20 pm

Public Disturbance wrote:Mine did the same thing once disconect your baby reset the pcm and you should be good
DAMN Autocorrect.... battery

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Post by l3utteredTOAST » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:32 pm

i tried everything :banghead: checked all the pins, changed clusters again, checked for loose wires, tried even doing a little dance while i did it and nothing..... i know its getting power because the tach goes from sitting on the stopping needle to j
like 1/8 inch above it and you can see it twitch at start up. and all my lights and signals work just fine. its like there's no signal to any of the gauges to move them. gahhh this is getting so aggrivating :cussing:

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Post by Hudson_Neon » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:35 am

this may sound dumb, but i had an issue once where one of the connectors on the PCM wasn't quite plugged in right. double check that those are corrosion free and plugged in all the way

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Post by occasional demons » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:54 am

It is prolly in the PCI bus circuit.

Violet/Yellow wire.

All the gauges are run through one wire (PCI Bus) via the PCM. Except the fuel, it is directly connected to the sender. The gauge does communicate via the PCI with the PCM tho.


Like he said, check the PCM connectors, any spots where the wires could be chafed.
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Post by stdlystdmufn » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:52 pm

when you tested pin 2 for the bus on a DMM did the screen flicker or did it give you an actual voltage reading?
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Post by tursh2010 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:38 pm

Did you figure out your problem? My car is doing the exact same thing except now none of the gauges work. I will check out my yellow and violet wire tomorrow now that I know exactly which wire to look at.

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Post by l3utteredTOAST » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:42 pm

tursh2010 wrote:Did you figure out your problem? My car is doing the exact same thing except now none of the gauges work. I will check out my yellow and violet wire tomorrow now that I know exactly which wire to look at.
Yea it was my ecu. I pulled one from an identical neon and it fixed it. But by that time I swapped the cluster for one with a tach and it was well worth it if you don't have one.

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Post by tursh2010 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:45 pm

The cluster I have in is one with a tachometer I swapped it out before my motor swap. So I guess if I dont find anything wrong illswap out the ecu. :(

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Post by occasional demons » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:22 pm

Hopefully you don't have SKIM, or the replacement PCM either.(Gray key)
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Post by tursh2010 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:25 pm

Nope just the black key

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