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Post by sidepipe87 » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:48 pm

Man that really sucks. I'm sorry. We had the terrible flooding Wednesday evening. My area and the surrounding neighborhoods got hit especially hard. We were lucky that only a little water came in our basement. I wish I had some pictures to show how bad it was. The sewers and creeks just could not handle it. I'm so glad I was home because I definitely would've hydrolocked my car had I been driving in it.
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Post by srtjesse » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:49 am

wow sorry to hear that man but hey look at it on the bright side now you have an excuse to rebuild and turbo that beast
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:41 am

been there done that with the hydrolocking, My cylinder 1 rod went through the block when mine hydro'd....
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Post by TheRandom1 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:25 am

Dude that blows...
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Post by Passt » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:49 am

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Post by measy27 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:58 am

Damn That sucks.. Hope you get everything taken care of..
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Post by Pocahontas » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:52 am

That really sucks ;;

I'm sorry!
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Post by contagious18 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:27 pm

damn that sucks bro. hope you get everything squared up and fix
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:07 pm

I do recall some Eagle rods and forged pistons FS on here and the org......
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Post by ZeroChad » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:14 pm

^hehe I hear ya. I've been scouting around. I'm way to tired from this weekend to do anything else today. tomorrow I'll drop the pan and check out the damage.


thanks for the wishes everyone. cross your fingers that the block and crank are fine.
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:23 pm

Wow really sorry to hear that! I saw pictures of that area on the weather channel yesterday and was hoping no one from the forums had been affected. That's horrible :( I hope you get Zero fixed and back on the road soon. Poor little neon :(

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Post by ZeroChad » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:14 am

^I hope so too. BBR looks like cylinder #1 has struck again.

Had some time to do some damage reporting. After rocking my car to get it up on wood for the jack(brakes were seized) I went to work. First I drained the oil yesterday. The dipstick lied. It was milky as fuck. (that is a weird simile lol)
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Its really hard to tell in these pics, but Cylinder #1 had a bent rod. The piston was hitting the crankshaft counterweight and leaving little shavings against the block and in the oilpan.
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I'm looking at my options right now. 10.1:1 Forged Wiseco w/ eagle rods seems to be what I'm leaning towards right now. I figure I can gut my engine bay out during the week. Then on a weekend I can yank the timing belt/head and go to town.
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Post by measy27 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:19 am

DAmn that sucks
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Post by TheRandom1 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:21 am

Damn that's nasty.
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:01 am

Wow, dipstick is a liar! If you can get those parts in time and tear it down and build it again.....that would be awesome. Best of luck! Keep on trucking!

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Post by Tam » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:52 am

Eww thats gross. Good thing you decided to change out the oil. If that were me, I would probably start driving it without checking lol.

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Post by JeffM » Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:10 pm

:-( That sucks, Chad. 10.1:1 sounds fun though. Best of luck to you with the rebuild!
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Post by ZeroChad » Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:18 pm

Yeah. I was pretty sad when I saw that shitty oil coming out. I have to move back into my apartment at school July 11-12, so that's my timeline. I have the week of the 6-10 off as mandatory shutdown too, so that helps.

Right now, the part list for Rebuild #2 looks like:
Head gasket
Oil pan gasket
Intake/Exhaust gaskets
Rod Bearings
Eagle Rods w/ arp bolts
Wiseco 10.5:1 Pistons
Rings

LCA Bushings. Might as well do it then.


That'll probably tap out my car budget for the end of the year lol. So much for carputer/megasquirt.
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Post by ZeroChad » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:28 am

Well things are ordered. It totalled in at about ~$890 damn. Good thing my credit cards were paid off.

I'm pretty excited about these pistons. How much HP increase do you think I'll see? It looks like they have an anti-friction coating on the skirts too!
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I'm a little unsure of a few procedures for this though. What is the probability that I'll need to ream the tops of the cylinder bores to remove the pistons? I'll put a pic below of what my block looked like 3 months ago. Also, is plastigauge necessary to check the bearing tolerance or should I be okay?

Block condition before my last rebuild:
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I can't believe my engine is going to look like that again soon.
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Post by lil06tecksta » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:22 am

GOOD LUCK! loved what you've done ever since the pg1
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Post by srtjesse » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:22 pm

nice were did you order you parts from?
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Post by Danteneon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:49 pm

ZeroChad wrote:I'm a little unsure of a few procedures for this though. What is the probability that I'll need to ream the tops of the cylinder bores to remove the pistons? I'll put a pic below of what my block looked like 3 months ago. Also, is plastigauge necessary to check the bearing tolerance or should I be okay?
Its unlikely that you will need to ream the top of the cylinder. There would have to be a lot of wear for that to be an issue. If you can run your finger up the wall and not feel a step, you should be fine.

Plastigauge would be a good idea. Look at it this way...if this was a simple stock tear-down and rebuild I wouldn't worry much, but since you are putting some good parts in there (along with the bump in compression) then it is better to be safe than sorry.
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Post by ZeroChad » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:18 pm

Thanks lil06

Jesse, I purchased the pistons/rods from Real Street Peformance out of Florida. I found them them through eBay.

Thanks for the info John. I'm gunna go ahead and get the plastigauge, as well as test fit the rings too. Better safe than sorry.
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Post by ZeroChad » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:29 pm

Gaskets, bearings, and LCA bushings should be here by tommorow.
Pistons, rings, rods in a week.

More bad luck. My wifi on my laptop died, my 360 has 3 rings of death (no warranty anymore), and I locked myself out of my apartment today. Also, my car is parked under two pine trees that are dripping sap on it. I'm for sure getting swasted tonight.


Tomorrow, I'm pulling the intake system, battery and other crap to get it out of the way. Maybe I'll throw on my sway and LCA bushings on Sunday.

BTW, my yellowtop is a fucking champ. It did all of the cranking, and after sitting a week its still freaking charged. What a great battery.
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Post by esteinmaier » Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:36 pm

Wow, lady luck sure hasn't been good to you!

Yes, please fit your rings and plastigage the bearings. Get main bearings too, as a hydrolock does put some huge pressure on everything down there.

You should run a hone through the cylinders anyway, and as long as carbon ring isn't too built up, the hone should take it off in a hurry.
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Post by ZeroChad » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:33 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Wow, lady luck sure hasn't been good to you!

Yes, please fit your rings and plastigage the bearings. Get main bearings too, as a hydrolock does put some huge pressure on everything down there.

You should run a hone through the cylinders anyway, and as long as carbon ring isn't too built up, the hone should take it off in a hurry.
I was considering the main bearings. I'd have to drop the bedplate, and remove flywheel to get the crank out in order to change them right?. I just don't think this is going to be possible since I'm pretty much forced to leave the engine in the car. I guess I'm assuming that the main bearings force you to pull the crank to replace the upper half.
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Post by ZeroChad » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:13 pm

Today I started the teardown. CAI, Intake mani, Bellows TB, Battery & tray, VC are gone. Exhaust mani is unbolted as well.
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I got sick and tired of the hood carpet always looking dirty so I ripped it off too.
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I also decided to repaint my radiator support brackets. They were the sore thumb of my engine bay. All rusted and crap.
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Post by JeffM » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:18 pm

:thumbup: for the radiator brackets. I've been thinking of doing that myself.
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Post by hul kogan » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:23 am

Wow man, sorry to hear about all the trouble you've been through. If I lived a little closer and wasn't getting ready for Carlisle, I would drive up to lend you a hand.

Hopefully luck swings in your favor soon!
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Post by ZeroChad » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:35 am

Jeff - Do it man! It was super quick, and looks so much better. I put a 2 coats of clear on it, so hopefully it lasts longer. I also did the battery tray.

Chris - Thanks man. I'd say the trickiest part is going to be jacking the engine around to get the mount bracket off. A few friends said they would lend a hand if I need it. Can't wait for those pistons to get here so I can go to town. I'm hoping to start installing them Sunday/Monday.
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