ZeroChad's Log -- Parting out this weekend.

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Post by srtjesse » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:28 am

cool man and yeah im going to completely and i mean completely rebuild everything inside and out of the full engine thanks again and good luck with your build
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Post by ZeroChad » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:44 pm

Well its almost done. Just need to get the intake, tb, filter, batter, and udp on. Then hook up some sensors and we're good to go. The only bad things that happened, were that I broke a ring compressor, and I think I smashed an a/c line, so its leaking now.

Here's some pics from today:

cylinder honing. #3 still needed a little work. The hone I rented from autozone had some weak stones, but overally I think the crosshatching will work well.
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Oh hai crankshaft!
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Things look weird down there w/o oil on them
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Pistons in!!!!
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Head back on
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Where I left off tonight. It got too dark to finish. Fluids are in, exhaust is on, but the udp needs to go on.
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Post by JeffM » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:06 pm

Looks awesome, Chad! :thumbup: Good work!
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Post by 03blackrt » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:29 pm

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Post by srtjesse » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:32 am

o wow that was quick man good work so i guess tomorrow we will see some vids of the beast runing huh lol
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Post by latief » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:22 am

Man, this is inspiring...I want to do this !!!

awesome job!!

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:01 am

Wow....lots of progress in a very short time! Great job Chad!

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Post by Tam » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:48 am

Are you doing all of this by yourself? I can never have the motivation or patience to do all this by myself lol.
Good job Chad.

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Post by ZeroChad » Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:11 pm

Thanks everyone. Its amazing all that I've gotten done so far. I'm freakin exhausted though. All that has to go on now is the air filter when it dries, and the belts when the udp cools down. Then a once over on everything and we'll try starting her up.

Tam - Yup, all by myself.


BTW i sprayed the engine mount bracket with 'chrome' Rustoleum. It looks a lot better now. The battery tray and radiator brackets have been painted black. I threw away the outer timing belt cover since it was practically in pieces. However, I think I cracked an AC line last night when I was jacking the engine around to get the mount bracket on. It was hissing when I stopped working. Its no longer hissing, which makes me think all the refrigerant drained out. oh well. I may just rip it out anyway since its suppose to be a cold summer.
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Post by ZeroChad » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:29 pm

Well she started up. Little bit of engine vibration. The oil pressure is really bothering me though. its at about 10psi at idle even when I hit the throttle a little.

Even with the bent rod it was at about 40psi. Is it okay? I'm thinking its just blowby causing it b/c the pistons aren't seated in yet. Maybe the assembly lube is playing a role too. I just wanted some confirmation before I go out and start the break in.

I saw a post on the other .org about it too. I using some generic synthetic oil. That may be the issue too.
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Post by 03blackrt » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:07 pm

Blowby shouldn't cause low oil pressure.

A few things to check.

1) Are you 100% sure you didn't leave and bits of towel in the block/oil pan?

2) Did you remove the oil pickup tube to put the pistons in?

2a) Did you torque down the oil pickup tube bolt?

2b) Did you make sure the o-ring between the oil pickup tube is there and seated properly?

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Post by quicksilvr » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:11 pm

To add to 03blackrt's list:


-make sure the oil pressure sender is not plugged, and it is installed tight

-the oil pickup tube needs to be cleaned out REAL good when you do a rebuild, stuff gets caked into the mesh sometimes and then it won't flow
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Post by ZeroChad » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:49 pm

Thanks for the replys.

Towels are for sure out. I didn't touch the sender, it was still on there tight when I felt it. The wire still looks good too.

I did take off the oil sump. I do remember putting it back on, but I don't know if I torqued it down. I guess tomorrow I'll drop the oil pan and check it out, and try a different oil filter.
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Post by ZeroChad » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:23 pm

You guys are awesome. You were spot on. I had the oil pickup on finger tight. It was just flopping around. I must have got distracted when I went to grab my torque wrench. I fired her up and had great pressure. Now to break her in tonight.

Pics and vids later on.

Thanks again!
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Post by 03blackrt » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:29 pm

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Post by srtjesse » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:34 pm

nice man glad to see the beast running again not we need some 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times to see how big the improvement was
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Post by ZeroChad » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:01 pm

srtjesse wrote:nice man glad to see the beast running again not we need some 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times to see how big the improvement was
Thats my plan next month. I for sure want to get it dyno'd too. I think I get get a couple of runs for free at school.

Just got back from doing some 30-50-30 runs to break in the rings. The car performed great! The low end torque gain is pretty sweet. I can't wait till she's fully broken in. It did start to overheat when I was a block from my apartment. I think I still have some air to work out of the system.
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Post by srtjesse » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:15 pm

throw a 180 t stat and do the fan switch mod my car allways sits at about 160 to 180 with this mod
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Post by neonslg09 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:00 pm

oh boy oh boy. i wish i could take a ride in this beast lol. glad everything worked of ok.

definitely need some results! :thumbup:

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Post by contagious18 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:10 pm

Congrats bro ur progress was fast good job
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Post by ZeroChad » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:39 pm

^Thanks! Looking back, I can't believe I did all of that in a little about 3days.

Took here for a spin today to drop of my old oil and coolant. She started running hot, so I let the engine cool down, and put in some more coolant. I think that was the last of the air, since I just took another trip to fuel up and she ran great.

Tomorrow I have a 2.5hr highway trip back to school. I'm planning an alternate rout right now so I can vary my speed. I guess you're not suppose to have long periods of high speeds while still breaking in an engine.

Even w/o opening the throttle all the way, the butt dyno is very happy. Say I'm in 3rd. It now feels like I have the torque that I use to in 2nd. Pretty sweet. I'll try and take some pics tonight while I'm packing.
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Post by hybrid-Srt2001 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:48 pm

lookin good man, looks very close to my build. check it out some time.
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Post by heydockyle » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:44 pm

ZeroChad wrote:
I guess you're not suppose to have long periods of high speeds while still breaking in an engine.
Nice Job :thumbup:

Not supposed to have long periods of high rpms. Speed doesn't really matter.
I was always told to break a motor in with short hard runs. Let it cool down after wards and that would help seat the rings. Other than that to drive normal and don't free rev it real hard or run it to the rev limiter or at high rpm's for extended periods.

I'm sure someone else will have some better insight on this though.
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Post by ZeroChad » Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:06 am

Will do hybrid!

heydockyle - I guess that's what I meant lol. I found a state highway that I'll take instead of US-96 and 69. Should let me have lower rpm and ocillate them more w/o looking like a retard.

Here's some pics!
Painted battery tray. I need to paint the bracket off the transmount sometime too.
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Intake. Haven't put the CAI back on yet.
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Painted radiator brackets
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Sprayed engine mount bracket. Looks tons better. New oil cap too.
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Lets not forget the load of sap on my car from sitting under a pine tree for 3weeks
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Just for fun. I made this out of a button I saw at work
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We all know the big change is on the inside though lol.
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Post by NickKo » Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:39 am

Chad..... let me get this straight.....

So you really did a rebuild with the engine still IN the car ?? :shock:

IN A freaking PARKING LOT, no less ??!?!??!!?!? :shock: :shock: :shock:

That is Awesome. :thumbup:
Good work !!

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:05 am

Fucking awesome! Nice work :D

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Post by Speeder » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:31 pm

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Post by hul kogan » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:43 am

Well done sir! Glad to hear that she is running good for you.
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Post by ZeroChad » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:21 pm

She made the trip to school great. No problems at all. I need to reprogram my butterfly switches though. I think they lost memory after being unplugged for 3 months. Also, the alternator belt needs tightening. After another 200 miles I'll change the oil too.

NickKo - Yup! I still can't believe I did all that. I was so freakin exhausted this weekend.

Crystal - Well thanks! Getting that sap off was a real pain in the ass. there's still some residue, but most of its gone.

Speeder - :cheers:

Chris - Hell yeah!
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Post by JeffM » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:30 pm

Nice work, Chad! Glad to hear everything turned out great for you.

Now get some videos up!!!!
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