Chrysler Fiat?

DuhNeon179 · Post by **DuhNeon179** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:00 am

Did Fiat buy out Chrysler or vise versua? Would this mean Fiat is apart of the MOPAR familiy? Because they're making I think a Fiat 500 or something that looks similar to it.

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:11 am

Yes, we will also be getting more than just the 500 I believe.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:29 am

Fiat is the controling company for the New Chrysler.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:15 am

Where the hell have you been, under a rock???

bstc00 · Post by **bstc00** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:28 am

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:42 am

I hear Gramps in the distance....

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:04 pm

Big rock. With Gramps sitting on top of it lol.

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:18 pm

isnt that what the Dodge/Chrystler News thread is all about?

viewtopic.php?t=52547&highlight=fiat

Post by **occasional demons** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:25 pm

Nope. Only on Mondays.

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:03 pm

Spotted a red and black 500 on the road the other day. Hot little number, but it is small. Could probably fit it in the trunk of the avenger

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:18 pm

DuhNeon179 wrote:...they're making I think a Fiat 500 or something that looks similar to it.

Yes, the North American market Fiat 500 is being made at the Toluca, Mexico plant where the PT Cruiser was being built.

JeffM wrote:I hear Gramps in the distance....

Say what?

heydockyle wrote:Big rock. With Gramps sitting on top of it lol.

Yes, Fiat has controlling interest in Chrysler Group LLC. IIRC, the UAW, the governments of the United States, Canada, Mexico and the Canadian province of Ontario control the rest. Once the loans to the various government entities have been repaid (very shortly), there will be an IPO of Chrysler Group stock (and I plan to be a shareholder).

DetergentCandy · Post by **DetergentCandy** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:54 pm

Was at a dealership this morning and saw a customer's 500 parked out front.

I want one

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:07 pm

Isn't Fiat an Italian company?

If so, doesn't that mean that Chrysler is no longer an American company, based on the fact that their products are now being made by a foreign company?

If so, that means Gramps should sell his car as it's no longer an American car. I'll give you $2 for it.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:36 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:Isn't Fiat an Italian company?

If so, doesn't that mean that Chrysler is no longer an American company, based on the fact that their products are now being made by a foreign company?

If so, that means Gramps should sell his car as it's no longer an American car. I'll give you $2 for it.

Waiting for David's response.

- Nick

DetergentCandy · Post by **DetergentCandy** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:47 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:Isn't Fiat an Italian company?

If so, doesn't that mean that Chrysler is no longer an American company, based on the fact that their products are now being made by a foreign company?

If so, that means Gramps should sell his car as it's no longer an American car. I'll give you $2 for it.

Well in that case, it wasn't American to begin with.
Most Neons were produced during the DaimlerChrysler age

So Gramps' car is technically German, ja?

iThane · Post by **iThane** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:14 am

regardless of who manufacturs these little fiats, i want!!

they aired one on top gear and it looked and sounded bad ass

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:29 am

NickKo wrote:Waiting for David's response.

C'mon guys, please don't break my ***** about this. As I've stated on 2GN before, Chrysler's survival is important to me due to the fact that my mother has a membership in that "legacy costs" group that the press always mentions (meaning that she is the beneficiary of the retirement benefits that my late father earned for spending 37 years of his life at the now defunct Chrysler Corporation). German-owned? Italian-owned? Certainly not of my choosing but however Chrysler survives is the most important issue for me.

DetergentCandy wrote:Most Neons were produced during the DaimlerChrysler age So Gramps' car is technically German, ja?

2GNs were already in the design phase before Daimler killed- excuse me... merged with Chrysler. IIRC, DCX (the company) was incorporated both in the state of Delaware and in Germany so it was (technically anyway) partially an American company. All 2GNs were built at Belvidere, IL in a UAW plant so that makes them about as American-made as you can get these days.

Yes, Fiat is an Italian company but has controlling interest only because of the various government entities that lent funds to keep Chrysler solvent. After the loans are paid back, the largest stakeholder after Fiat will be the UAW. Chrysler CEO Marchionne did once make an off-the-cuff remark about Fiat moving its headquarters to the US but quickly did damage control. But who knows? Things change quickly...

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/20 ... tone-plant

I'll say this again- pretty much the only reason why I wouldn't buy a 500 is because it is Mexican-made. If Fiat/Chrysler Group had decided to add an assembly line at Belvidere to manufacture it here (and if an SRT version appeared

), I would be interested.

And it would take a lot more than $2 to get my SRT.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:36 am

Midnight_Rider wrote:
NickKo wrote:Waiting for David's response.
C'mon guys, please don't break my ***** about this.

And it would take a lot more than $2 to get my SRT.

That's what I meant by 'awaiting your response'.

- Nick

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:10 am

Awww come on David, I'm just messin with ya no need to get so defensive.

I'd pay more than $2 for your SRT, but I'm sure it smells like mothballs!

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:21 am

Build a 500

www.fiatusa.com/en/build_your_own.html

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:46 am

TheRandom1 wrote:Awww come on David, I'm just messin with ya no need to get so defensive.

It's all good! I do get put on the spot a lot for my "Buy American" stance though.

TheRandom1 wrote:I'd pay more than $2 for your SRT, but I'm sure it smells like mothballs!

And how did you ever get close enough to a moth to know how that smells? I am KIDDING!

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:47 am

Haven't seen my porno yet, have you?

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:49 am

Sean, you are awesome.

DuhNeon179 · Post by **DuhNeon179** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:03 pm

yeah actually I've been under a rock for quite some time now.

teamliviD · Post by **teamliviD** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:48 pm

quick question...are we getting the Fiat 500 Abarth??

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:20 pm

I believe they said they'd be bringing a select few to the states.

bstc00 · Post by **bstc00** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:41 pm

teamliviD wrote:quick question...are we getting the Fiat 500 Abarth??

I dont know if that is what they are going to be calling it but they are coming out with a turbo version.

Just found this http://fiat500usa.blogspot.com/2010/01/ ... power.html

teamliviD · Post by **teamliviD** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:16 pm

this will be my next car...if and when it comes

Forest Green 2k · Post by **Forest Green 2k** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:34 pm

You can pre-order already.

Edit: Nevermind, their pre-orders are maxed.

Don't worry, it's coming.

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:37 pm

I like small cars but for me the Fiat 500 is too small.