Amplifier Screws?

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:26 pm

I just bought a Kenwood KAC 7202 Amp off a friend....but noticed it was missing the right channel screws....I need these two screws....and was wondering if anyone here could help me out....thanks alot!

also....im pretty green to the car audio scene and the whole RMS....total wattage thing gets me. Soo I wanted to know what 6x9 and 6x5 component RMS....or wattage I should look for when I just installed a KENWOOD KDC-MP632U.....that is 50x4 watts. Haha I prolly sound like a complete idiot..but its the only way to learn soo bring on the help...thanks guys

jT · Post by jT » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:38 pm

RMS is the amount of power a speaker/sub can handle (and for an amp can deliver) at a constant steady rate... the peak power is what it can handle/produce in bursts

RMS is the most important, peak is just a "for show" number, you can learn to ignore it

the KDC-MP632U is 22w RMS x 4 (50w peak), so pretty much any speaker will handle that.

the amp is 150W x 2 RMS or 460W x 1 RMS bridged.. so you could run 2 subs (1 on each channel) with 150w RMS, or bridge 1 or 2 subs that each can hadle 460W RMS (kinda expensive) --- and maybe someone can chime in on the ohm stuff, i forget if you bridge 2 4ohm subs if it creates 2ohm.. this amp is not rated 2ohm stable

or another thing to do would be to use that amp for rear speakers (like 6x9) and get some good ones that can do 150 RMS then get a second amp for the subs

but if you want to stay with this setup.. any speakers will do running directly off the radio because the rms is low

as for the screws .. use anything that fits (if you got computer screws around those would probably fit) otherwise i'm pretty sure you can pick some up at walmart or any place like that with car audio stuff

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:37 am

could I just get new aftermarket speakers and run subs and the speakers off of it?

jT · Post by jT » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:40 am

yeah you can run speakers and a sub off it.... but since youll be limited to using 1 channel for the sub it will just be 150w RMS

i seem to recall a way to bridge or some other type of wiring diagram the sub and speakers together to get the most power, but not really sure

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:51 am

haha soo i should get another amp to run my speakers off of............

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:27 am

im too tired to make a good post so ill get on this tomorrow haha

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:16 am

haha look forward to it

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:42 am

as for the screws you can go buy cheap ones or you can do good ones....good ones can be found http://www.amplifierscrews.com/pricingUS.htm there and cheap one can be found at any hardware store or you might want to run by a stereo shop they might be able to help ya out.

as found your CD player running your highs. yes its "enough" power to run regular 6x9s and regular 6.5's. BUT if you want your car to sound really good go with some 6.5 components and and components 6x9s *if you have the money* and run a 4 channel amp on the highs. your CD player wont supply enough power to run components properly. yes the cd player will push the speakers but it will sound like shit. *i had alpine type S components on my alpine cd player for about a week and had to break down and buy a 4 channel cause they sounded so horrible* ok let me throw this in too....once you listen to a good set of components you will never buy a set of coax speakers again.

ok amps....what amp you buy depends on how much money you want to spend, what kind of speakers you have, and how loud you want it to be. like JT said...peak power is just a show off number...the number you need to be looking at is the RMS rating. you can buy a 50watt x 4 *channel* @ 4 ohms amp fairly cheap. and that will sound great and you will enjoy it. when i say cheap i dont mean a walmart special for $50 im saying around $175 or so. when you buy an amp make sure the company that makes the amp is CEA compliany. this basically means your going to get the power you pay for. compair a xplod*non CEA* 1000 watt amp with a JL audio*CEA* 1000 watt amp and you will understand why your spending more money.

ok my head is hurting so tell me if i left anything out.

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:05 am

Alright thanks alot that information was of great help.....soo components over coaxial anyday.....and RMS is the playing factor besides the advertising player called peak power. Soo im planning on getting alpine components all the way around except for prolly kicker tweeter (coaxials) in the dash. I already have a Kenwood KAC 7202 amplifier....and I am planning on using that to push 2 10 inch rockford's in a bandpass box...ported box. Im also getting a Kenwood KAC 7201 amplifer with these specs:
Power Output at 2 Ohms, at 14.4V (1kHz, 0.8% THD): 230 Watts x 2
Power Output at 4 Ohms, at 14.4V (20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD): 150 Watts x 2

----To push the speakers.....soo does that sound like a pretty decent plan....what else do I need or did I leave out...thanks alot guys for being patient and taking the time to educajamate me

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:44 am

umm ok so the 7202 for the subs and the 7201 for the highs?

first off the 7201 on the highs wont work because it isnt a 4 channel.

as for the 7202 for the 2 10"s.....i dont know...what kind of RF subs are you getting? details are important man:-p lol but ya tell me the exact 10's your getting and we'll go from there.

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:52 am

Well see....good thing im talking to someone that knows what they are talking about cuz I dont think half the people around here do.....but I was lookin at the earlier P1's pretty inexpensive.....or the kenwood typhoon 10's. But I havent really locked up deals on any of them.....still kind of in the shopping mode....

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:43 am

P1 = crap and i dont really know much about the typhoons...ive heard they're loud but dont hit that hard. what kind of bass are you looking for and are you dead set on two 10"s? give me your price range and ill hook you up.

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:34 pm

well Im really looking to spend under 100 or throw in an ipod in a trade.....but its two 10's or two 12s.....i want a pretty hard thump....

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:15 pm

for $100 your not going to get much at all.....ya i can find you several subs but for $100 you might just want to go with a single 12". do you already have a box and an amp for the subs?

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:27 pm

a single 12 would be better than two 10's? No I was going to buy 03sxt's ported box for two 10's...but if you think one 12 is going to sound better than prolly not

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:50 pm

no i was saying single 12" because of the money your going to be working with. but ok so if getting a slot ported box i would suggest.....*i will edit this area..i gotta look some stuff up but im at work so bare with me*

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:53 pm

no rush...loving the wisdom...haha

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:55 pm

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-SiPZgRzzvE ... 700MTX421D

or

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-SiPZgRzzvE ... =700PWR299

lil more than ur $100 but hey...your not going to find 2 10"s and an amp much cheaper....

edit - but if you want to do some shopping crutchfield and www.caraudioimage.com is a great place to look and they have great pricing.

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:08 pm

hey man I already have the kenwood KAC 7202

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:34 pm

in that case buy this single 12"
http://www.caraudioimage.com/index.cfm? ... uct_ID=793
and get the alpine sloted box...you wont be disappointed

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:40 pm

alright thanks alot for all your help man......ill keep this all in mind...still gotta get the cash flow with college and apartment and all then it will be for real

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:46 pm

ok..im gunna get that sub and the alpine 600watt amp sometime soon...wed. im getting my components and 6x9s installed along with my 4 channel amp.

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:15 pm

what 4 channel and components are you getting?

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:19 pm

6.5 alpine type S somponents on the alpine MRP-F240 4 channel amp and im gunna be running alpine type R 6x9's in the rear

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:32 pm

lil bit of an alpine fan?

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:41 pm

i love alpine. i have the CDA 9853 cd player and as soon as i get the money im getting the type R sub and alpine 600watt amp...god its gunna sound good.

Onlyexstasy · Post by **Onlyexstasy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:17 pm

Sounds like a plan man...alpine is solid.....was gonna get the model headunit that was one up on yours but that fell through...sooo u into car audio...judging from what uve said it sounds like uve done ur studying

eastwoodsn352 · Post by **eastwoodsn352** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:32 pm

ya im big into car audio..i had to learn a lot about it when i put stuff into my saturn *first car* but ya sorry about the delay...i had some kind of post limit thing