help setting up ipod
help setting up ipod
okay so now i'm trying to set up my ipod in the neon. I have a pioneer DEH-P7600MP that i purchased a couple years ago and I have had trouble finding out if it would work with the ipod adapter, CD-IB100ii, or if I would have to settle with the aux. in adapter, CD-RB10. I went to Tweeter and they said that the CD-IB100ii should work with all IP-Bus (whatever that is) pioneer head units. They sold me one and said if it didn't work to just come back and they'll refund me the money and sell me the CD-RB10. I had also called Pioneer directly and asked if the CD-IB100ii would work. They mentioned that it should work even though my model isn't listed as compatible. So I take it home last night and attempt this install.... The CD-IB100ii has a yellow power wire that has a 2amp fuse on it that needs to be wired to the battery, as well as a black ground wire that needs to be wired to the chassis. I don't know a whole hell of a lot about wiring audio (a friend of mine did the install for the head unit a couple of years ago) but I believe I did it correctly. Both the power wire and ground wire running from the car had two wires each that were spliced together to run one wire each into the head unit. I had cut each of the wires and ran them to the ipod adapter. So after I had two black ground wires (one running to the head unit and one running to the ipod adapter), and two yellow power wires (one running to the head unit and one running to the ipod adapter). I turn the car on and.....blew a fuse. Mind you this is at 930 at night and I had no extra fuses or any places to go purchase them. So this morning I had to drive half way to work without the radio and power locks until I could replace the 20 amp fuse I had blown in the fuse box in the engine bay. SO, if anyone could help me out figuring out what went wrong that would be great. Thanks in advance
did you follow the installation instructions and wiring diagram????
first things first
the cd player (http://www.cardomain.com/item/PIODEHP7600MP)
why? well the ipod doesnt have ip-bus out.. so you still need the other unit to interface with the ipod
with all your wiring stuff i honestly cannot understand what you did.. youre talking about 4 wires into 2 wires but you cut all the wires and have this and that wire going here and there, i just cant follow what you did..
UNWIRE whatever you did, and put everything back to how it was before you started playing. replace the fuse and make sure everything works ok.
if everything is good then continue
get some quick splice connecters at walmart or an autoparts store
splice the black ground wire into an existing ground wire or if you really have to cut an existing ground wire and connect it (like you tried to do but again with the talk of 6 wires i dont know what you actually did)
now the power line goes to a constant source... so you can wire it to the constant power of the radio, which also sounds like you tried to do.. splice it in to a constant power source line
if you dont know about audio wiring, how did you know what the wires were that you were cutting?? and did your friend use a wiring harness or did he ruin your wiring by cutting the factory harness off and wiring directly to the head unit?
the cd player will have two power wires.. constant and accessory.. you need to know which one is the constant
if you got a digital camera some pictures might help
first things first
the cd player (http://www.cardomain.com/item/PIODEHP7600MP)
you need that CD-RB10 in ADDITION to the thing you already bought.. not as a replacement (no refunds there)IP-Bus System Control
- XM Satellite Tuner Ready
- CD Changer / DVD Control
- Auxiliary Input (CD-RB10 or CD-RB20 required)
- 2 External Unit Control
why? well the ipod doesnt have ip-bus out.. so you still need the other unit to interface with the ipod
with all your wiring stuff i honestly cannot understand what you did.. youre talking about 4 wires into 2 wires but you cut all the wires and have this and that wire going here and there, i just cant follow what you did..
UNWIRE whatever you did, and put everything back to how it was before you started playing. replace the fuse and make sure everything works ok.
if everything is good then continue
get some quick splice connecters at walmart or an autoparts store
splice the black ground wire into an existing ground wire or if you really have to cut an existing ground wire and connect it (like you tried to do but again with the talk of 6 wires i dont know what you actually did)
now the power line goes to a constant source... so you can wire it to the constant power of the radio, which also sounds like you tried to do.. splice it in to a constant power source line
if you dont know about audio wiring, how did you know what the wires were that you were cutting?? and did your friend use a wiring harness or did he ruin your wiring by cutting the factory harness off and wiring directly to the head unit?
the cd player will have two power wires.. constant and accessory.. you need to know which one is the constant
if you got a digital camera some pictures might help
I'm not quite following what you said about the CD-RB10 being in addition to the CD-IB100ii. The ipod would connect directly to the dock connector and my head unit does have an ip-bus input there's no problem there. If i were to go with just the CD-RB10 I already have a wire that would connect to the headphones jack on the ipod and has two rca parts at the other end (from what i understand the two rca ends would then directly connect to the CD-RB10). I did replace the fuse and just twist the wiring back to the way it was before and everything is working fine (I did this in the walmart parking lost at around 7 this morning, radio runs fine along with power locks etc.). And i do have some extra fuses now so i could attempt some different wirings and blow a few more fuses. My friend didn't ruin anything, he did use a wiring harness (connected the factory wiring to it and ran the other wires to the head unit so i'm good there.
It is somewhat difficult to discribe what was going on I appologize. From the factory wiring harness there were two yellow power wires (each of them said 12V constant power or soemthing to that effect) that were spliced together along with a single wire to the headunit (this is also difficult to discribe but basically the wires look like a " Y " with two of the wires going to the factory harness and the single end going to the headunit). This is the same situation with the ground wiring. So i cut one wire off of each of these three way intersections to make all of the wires single connections (two wires spliced). I was to believe that both of the yellow wires leaving the factory harness were constant power (which the CD-IB100ii requires), but i could be wrong...this was just an assumption made because it said "constant" on the wire.
I have followed that diagram in the owners manual and everything else was plugged in correctly.
I have a digital camera at home so I can't take pictures, sorry. thanks for the help so far jT, i'm somewhat amazed that you understood anything out of my incoherent jumble before
It is somewhat difficult to discribe what was going on I appologize. From the factory wiring harness there were two yellow power wires (each of them said 12V constant power or soemthing to that effect) that were spliced together along with a single wire to the headunit (this is also difficult to discribe but basically the wires look like a " Y " with two of the wires going to the factory harness and the single end going to the headunit). This is the same situation with the ground wiring. So i cut one wire off of each of these three way intersections to make all of the wires single connections (two wires spliced). I was to believe that both of the yellow wires leaving the factory harness were constant power (which the CD-IB100ii requires), but i could be wrong...this was just an assumption made because it said "constant" on the wire.
I have followed that diagram in the owners manual and everything else was plugged in correctly.
I have a digital camera at home so I can't take pictures, sorry. thanks for the help so far jT, i'm somewhat amazed that you understood anything out of my incoherent jumble before
ok disregard what i said about the CD-RB10 then, from the way the website layed out the information it looked to me as if the cd player did not have the ipbus connection.
im just still confused about your wiring.. its like one of those "wtf" situations.. i dont get why there would be "y" connections in the power/ground. ive never seen a car like that.
when you say "So i cut one wire off of each of these three way intersections to make all of the wires single connections (two wires spliced)."
do you mean you did something like this:
now that everything is working fine, are those wires back to their original "y" connections?
where did you previously hook up the ipod power/ground?
it would seem to me that this is essentially how you want to wire it:
how did your first wiring job compare to this?
im just still confused about your wiring.. its like one of those "wtf" situations.. i dont get why there would be "y" connections in the power/ground. ive never seen a car like that.
when you say "So i cut one wire off of each of these three way intersections to make all of the wires single connections (two wires spliced)."
do you mean you did something like this:
now that everything is working fine, are those wires back to their original "y" connections?
where did you previously hook up the ipod power/ground?
it would seem to me that this is essentially how you want to wire it:
how did your first wiring job compare to this?
In your first picture the before picture is how the wires were originally. For the black wires (ground) the Top two pieces were in the harness connecting to the stock wire setup and the bottom piece went straight to the headunit. This is the same situation for your picture of the red "before" wires (which we'll say are the yellow power wires). I figured that there didn't need to be two power wires running to the single power wire that goes to the headunit (same for the ground wires). So i severed the connection and had one of each of the wires connected to the ground and power of the CD-IB100ii (as you're pictured, the smaller red and black wires in the after part).
This morning after I bought fuses and replaced the blown 20 amp fuse I twisted the wires back into their "before" positions and just used electrical tape for the time being keep them somewhat in place (once I figure all of this out I'll properly solder the wires together).
As for your second picture I was going to attempt this later on today and see if it would blow a fuse but I didn't know if connecting all of the wires at the same intersection would create a loop or something defective. I'll give it a shot when I get out of work and see what happens.
One other possible idea would be to directly connect the power to the positive battery terminal (run the wire through the rubber grommit in the firewall like my 4 gage power wire running the 500/1 in the trunk), and to ground the wire directly to the chassis. Should I just go with this option? Also, would this be drawing too much power from the battery? I doubt it but it has crossed my mind since I already have dimming from the subwoofer (although there's only a 2 amp fuse on the power cord to the CD-IB100ii)
This morning after I bought fuses and replaced the blown 20 amp fuse I twisted the wires back into their "before" positions and just used electrical tape for the time being keep them somewhat in place (once I figure all of this out I'll properly solder the wires together).
As for your second picture I was going to attempt this later on today and see if it would blow a fuse but I didn't know if connecting all of the wires at the same intersection would create a loop or something defective. I'll give it a shot when I get out of work and see what happens.
One other possible idea would be to directly connect the power to the positive battery terminal (run the wire through the rubber grommit in the firewall like my 4 gage power wire running the 500/1 in the trunk), and to ground the wire directly to the chassis. Should I just go with this option? Also, would this be drawing too much power from the battery? I doubt it but it has crossed my mind since I already have dimming from the subwoofer (although there's only a 2 amp fuse on the power cord to the CD-IB100ii)
so yesterday after i got out of work I tried a couple other ways of wiring this damn sob and ultimately....i gave up 
I had read a couple of posts that this ipod adapter wasnt' all that great anyways. A couple of reviews on crutchfield mentioned that it was too slow and operating was a bitch due to only a few lines would be visible on the headunit and there was no option to control your music through the ipod (being forced to search through tons of files on the headunit was not that enjoyable).
I went back to tweeter and returned the CD-IB100ii and got the CD-RB10. Installing took no more then two minutes and I was on the road cranking all the music that I've been missing
The only downside is that this ip-bus to rca jack doesn't charge the ipod, but I could just go out and but the car ipod charger. I'll probably end up doing this eventually
Thanks jT for the help, sorry this whole project came to nothing...
I had read a couple of posts that this ipod adapter wasnt' all that great anyways. A couple of reviews on crutchfield mentioned that it was too slow and operating was a bitch due to only a few lines would be visible on the headunit and there was no option to control your music through the ipod (being forced to search through tons of files on the headunit was not that enjoyable).
I went back to tweeter and returned the CD-IB100ii and got the CD-RB10. Installing took no more then two minutes and I was on the road cranking all the music that I've been missing
The only downside is that this ip-bus to rca jack doesn't charge the ipod, but I could just go out and but the car ipod charger. I'll probably end up doing this eventuallyThanks jT for the help, sorry this whole project came to nothing...