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blacksapphireneon
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Hey Neon lovers..Lol (need to make a funny cuz of how pissed i am)
I need to kno if anyone has had any problems with the wiring harness for the defroster..Cuz if so i need your help.. I am suein dodge, because they are trying to tell me that it wasnt the wiring harness that made my windsheild fry..I mean holy shit i got three witnesses..I was on the phone with Dodge for 4 hours today..From 2 -now..Which i am still on the phone..And they told me they were gonna reimburse me but now has told me that they cant cuz it is already fixed and the investigation can not be continued cuz i fixed..WTF is that shit.. i mean my defrosters arent even attached anymore..Hell no i dont want that shit happening again..
Please pm me instead of replying i dont care if you do both just please reply
Christina
I need to kno if anyone has had any problems with the wiring harness for the defroster..Cuz if so i need your help.. I am suein dodge, because they are trying to tell me that it wasnt the wiring harness that made my windsheild fry..I mean holy shit i got three witnesses..I was on the phone with Dodge for 4 hours today..From 2 -now..Which i am still on the phone..And they told me they were gonna reimburse me but now has told me that they cant cuz it is already fixed and the investigation can not be continued cuz i fixed..WTF is that shit.. i mean my defrosters arent even attached anymore..Hell no i dont want that shit happening again..
Please pm me instead of replying i dont care if you do both just please reply
Christina
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Do yourself a favor and don't even waste your time trying to sue dodge over something like this. Save yourself the time, money, and aggrevation.
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What's your time worth to get the $350 back?
How much do lawyers cost?
How much in lost pay will you loose taking time off to fight it?
Will you get that back from the settlement?
Is it worth the aggrevation?
Matt
How much do lawyers cost?
How much in lost pay will you loose taking time off to fight it?
Will you get that back from the settlement?
Is it worth the aggrevation?
Matt
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blacksapphireneon
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Thanks justin..
I have been out of work for a month now..no income for that amount of time..Why do you think i wasnt buyin the shit right away..I still owe justin 90 and 01neones 70..
and i will be givin them that once i get back to work..
It is worth my time cuz they closed the complaint before they got off the phone with me..So fuck that..im gonna get attorney and take them to court..
so dont comment if ur not gonna help
I have been out of work for a month now..no income for that amount of time..Why do you think i wasnt buyin the shit right away..I still owe justin 90 and 01neones 70..
and i will be givin them that once i get back to work..
It is worth my time cuz they closed the complaint before they got off the phone with me..So fuck that..im gonna get attorney and take them to court..
so dont comment if ur not gonna help
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Well, ok thenblacksapphireneon wrote:so dont comment if ur not gonna help
BTW: I've never had a problem with my wiring harness.
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you are going to have a hard time with a lawsute unless you have documentation fron a mechanic stating that it was the harness that broke the window.
and on a side note i have had no problems with my rear defroger
and on a side note i have had no problems with my rear defroger
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1997 Dodge Highline DOHC coupe = Sold
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1996 Dodge espresso coupe SOHC (Stella) = Dead
1998 Plymouth ACR------- more to come
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Be sure to keep us updated on your progress. I know I'm very interested to see how you make out.
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A lawyer once told me that an $1850 claim was a "low-dollar" suit...if you can bump that $350 up with punitive damages, that would be great.
You should probably do some legal research before commencing your suit. Cornell's Legal Information Institute hosts federal laws and rules of procedure and links to state statutes. Nolo has a great website that gives a legal overview and sells books that go into some depth about common legal topics. Take a look at the entire "rights & disputes" section for details on your particular case.
If you're filing in state court, be sure to file in the proper location (i.e. venue must be proper). You'll probably file in small claims court (since you're out only $350). The Nolo website should talk more about venue somewhere within it. You've got to follow all the FAQs and stuff to find what you want on it.
FYI: If you file in U.S. district court (only if you have a "federal question" - a complaint under federal law), the filing fee is usually $350 (free if you're successful in applying for "leave to proceed in forma pauperis (as a pauper)"). State small claims court fees are more reasonable and usually under $100.
A lawyer once told me that an $1850 claim was a "low-dollar" suit...if you can bump that $350 up with punitive damages, that would be great.
You should probably do some legal research before commencing your suit. Cornell's Legal Information Institute hosts federal laws and rules of procedure and links to state statutes. Nolo has a great website that gives a legal overview and sells books that go into some depth about common legal topics. Take a look at the entire "rights & disputes" section for details on your particular case.
If you're filing in state court, be sure to file in the proper location (i.e. venue must be proper). You'll probably file in small claims court (since you're out only $350). The Nolo website should talk more about venue somewhere within it. You've got to follow all the FAQs and stuff to find what you want on it.
FYI: If you file in U.S. district court (only if you have a "federal question" - a complaint under federal law), the filing fee is usually $350 (free if you're successful in applying for "leave to proceed in forma pauperis (as a pauper)"). State small claims court fees are more reasonable and usually under $100.
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Out of curiousity, what exactly are you going to be suing DaimlerChrysler for? Are you suing DaimlerChrylser, or the dealership?
Second; What are you suing them for? I know about the incident, but you cant just sue somebody for not reimbursing you for a broken part. Should I sue Dodge if my windshield wiper motors stop working in the middle of a storm? Stuff happens to cars, and unless you are under warranty, I do not see how you have a real solid case in a small claims court. Just because something breaks in your car doesnt mean you get to sue the manufacturer. If that happened, Dodge would no longer be around.
Listen, Im not trying to be an ass, and I know you guys will tell me to shutup b/c Im not reaffirming what you said, but heres what I would do before continuing: Determine who you are 'suing' and for what.
Also, remember that lawyers will tell clients what they want to hear as long as they are being paid for their time.
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First; It is rather hard to carry out an investigation when the part has been fixed and their is no way to tell what happened. You, and three witnesses may know what happened, but unfortunatley for you that is not good enough. They would have to see the part in question and officially file all the reports.blacksapphireneon wrote:And they told me they were gonna reimburse me but now has told me that they cant cuz it is already fixed and the investigation can not be continued cuz i fixed..WTF is that shit...
Second; What are you suing them for? I know about the incident, but you cant just sue somebody for not reimbursing you for a broken part. Should I sue Dodge if my windshield wiper motors stop working in the middle of a storm? Stuff happens to cars, and unless you are under warranty, I do not see how you have a real solid case in a small claims court. Just because something breaks in your car doesnt mean you get to sue the manufacturer. If that happened, Dodge would no longer be around.
Listen, Im not trying to be an ass, and I know you guys will tell me to shutup b/c Im not reaffirming what you said, but heres what I would do before continuing: Determine who you are 'suing' and for what.
Also, remember that lawyers will tell clients what they want to hear as long as they are being paid for their time.
Dave
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blacksapphireneon
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No the problem hasnt been fixed...my harness is fried..and thats now all the damage..I have scratches on my pillars and on my trunk lid and my quarters.. I dont ask for snappy people to be givin me advice..Justin and Christy are my witnesses..We were drivin and the damn thing shattered..Now tell me what i shouldnt sue bout..If that would of shattered on people in my back seat i would of been pist, cuz it would of been my sister that is 7months pregnant
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blacksapphireneon wrote:No the problem hasnt been fixed...my harness is fried..and thats now all the damage..I have scratches on my pillars and on my trunk lid and my quarters.. I dont ask for snappy people to be givin me advice..Justin and Christy are my witnesses..We were drivin and the damn thing shattered..Now tell me what i shouldnt sue bout..If that would of shattered on people in my back seat i would of been pist, cuz it would of been my sister that is 7months pregnant
You need to calm down and relax.... The guys are just telling the truth. You won't get far AT ALL with a law suit over your shattered rear glass. Like said above - you fixed the window and basically "tampered" with the evidence. Theres nothing for them to look into... You can't sue for a what if my baby's daddy's uncle was in the back seat. This is a public forum... you will get all different kinds of replies. You don't need to throw a fit if you don't get one you like... deal with it and move on.. or ignore it if you don't like it.. but like said above.. You won't get far with a $350 law suit against Dodge.
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Throw's dangerdave a paddle
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I appreciate you situation, and I understand what could have happened if someone had been in the back seat. I have used my defroster for hours at a time last winter here with zero problems. That being said.
It happened. Its done and over, your rear glass is fixed. Yes, its unfortunate that you had to pay out of pocket and that you're out that $350 but, even if you file in small claims it will not be cheap. Think of the amount of money DCx has and how petty a suit this would be for them.
Also, whats to say that the tint on your window (if you had it), or you hit a bump off center, or the tire and wheel change caused unecessary stress to the car. DCx will try to bring all these up in a suit you file against them. Also, whats to say the harness didn't ground out against the body immediately after window broke, and thats what caused it to fry?
I don't want to sound like an ass, and I feel truly bad for you being out that money, but you have to look at it from a realistic POV.
Good Luck.
It happened. Its done and over, your rear glass is fixed. Yes, its unfortunate that you had to pay out of pocket and that you're out that $350 but, even if you file in small claims it will not be cheap. Think of the amount of money DCx has and how petty a suit this would be for them.
Also, whats to say that the tint on your window (if you had it), or you hit a bump off center, or the tire and wheel change caused unecessary stress to the car. DCx will try to bring all these up in a suit you file against them. Also, whats to say the harness didn't ground out against the body immediately after window broke, and thats what caused it to fry?
I don't want to sound like an ass, and I feel truly bad for you being out that money, but you have to look at it from a realistic POV.
Good Luck.
If you were going it alone (pro se), dangerdave would be right about all you have to know (defendant and cause for action). I'd add venue as well. However, you've got a lawyer to worry about that. I hope he sees you all the way through the case 
Hopefully the defendant doesn't show up to court on the scheduled trial date. That would be awesome for you - you win without having to prove a thing (in most cases). Ah, the wonders of default judgment!
Hopefully they will settle with you. If not, good luck in court!
Hopefully the defendant doesn't show up to court on the scheduled trial date. That would be awesome for you - you win without having to prove a thing (in most cases). Ah, the wonders of default judgment!
Hopefully they will settle with you. If not, good luck in court!
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blacksapphireneon
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im really tired of people tellin me that shit..I have sent them pictures..When they were on the phone with me..Matthew i believe his name was and he was very nice..you could see the fried harness..And i have a report from the glass man..so im not really fucked after all, but honestly now im not goin through with it, cuz i just thought of them buyin the car back and it would kill me cuz i put all that work into & money
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I am not questioning anybody's authority, truthfulness, or motives here, but out of curiousity, what did the techs say happened? The harness just shit its pants or what? * Again, Im just asking, not trying to prove I am right or anything.
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was the defroster accadently turned on? if so that night have happned. but good luck suing a multimillion dollar company that spends more $ on 1 lawyer than you will make in a life time. but hell good luck any way, we are just trying to give you a voice of reason. lawsuts are not the answer. My wife and i could have easly sued and won the lawsute agianst her OBGYN after the deth of out daughter even he The doctor admited he made a mestake. but suing wont solve anythind but wast more time and $. I understand you are upset but what will suing do.
Im not trying to piss you off just to get you to listen. you say you have not worked in 4 weeks, ok i get that #is tight and you are out 350. but when you add your lawyer fees you will be out even more. now what happems if you loose. then you will be out 350 + your lawyer fees + court costs+ any outher possable fees. to me thats not worth it
Im not trying to piss you off just to get you to listen. you say you have not worked in 4 weeks, ok i get that #is tight and you are out 350. but when you add your lawyer fees you will be out even more. now what happems if you loose. then you will be out 350 + your lawyer fees + court costs+ any outher possable fees. to me thats not worth it
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Neons owned
2003 Dodge SXT (MAGGIE) = Dead X 3
1997 Dodge Highline DOHC coupe = Sold
1996 Dodge sedan (Baby) SOHC = Sold
1996 Dodge espresso coupe SOHC (Stella) = Dead
1998 Plymouth ACR------- more to come

Neons owned
2003 Dodge SXT (MAGGIE) = Dead X 3
1997 Dodge Highline DOHC coupe = Sold
1996 Dodge sedan (Baby) SOHC = Sold
1996 Dodge espresso coupe SOHC (Stella) = Dead
1998 Plymouth ACR------- more to come
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I know this has been closed, but DCX is very hard to get trhough. It took me 3 months and lots of complaints, arguing and yelling to get my Caliber exhaust fixed. I spent alot of tiem reasearching it, printing things and explaining the problem over and over. its finally fixed, but it was a pain. DCX is hard to work with.




