future turbo set up

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:25 pm

ok im starting to plan a turbo set up let me know what you think.

2.0 block with forged rods and pistions (not sure about what ration i want) maybe blue print and balance block(depends on how much it would be)

port polised head with new cam and springs

srt turbo setup(for now...bigger turbo will come after i get everything running good)

3.55 or 3.94 with lsd and better clutch

lonewolf intake mani

and greddy emanage hooked up to my laptop to controle fuel and boost( until i got ms)

ill also do there stuff like tb,new oil pan, cam gear, ram air intake,bov,ic,etc radiator, heat trated crank and maybe knife edged.

i kno theres alot of lil things im not listing but just wanted to put down the main things to see what yous think. my goal is 300 whp.
think i can reach it with that setup?

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:17 am

My guess is 280

03neonRT · Post by **03neonRT** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:43 am

As far as i know the most anyone has ever got out of the TD04 is around 330whp. So with the right tuning you should barely be able to reach your goal.

rOniN · Post by **rOniN** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:11 pm

reliable or not? Pushing that turbo to the max will cut it's lifetime down. Even with the right tune it will be really pushing it

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:11 pm

hmmm what s a good turbo to get that will give me the 300whp with out alot of lag?

03neonRT · Post by **03neonRT** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:22 pm

rOniN wrote:reliable or not? Pushing that turbo to the max will cut it's lifetime down. Even with the right tune it will be really pushing it

From what I have read it was reliable (so far), but that doesnt mean the turbo could crap out at any time because of the added stress of running maxed out all the time.

hmmm what s a good turbo to get that will give me the 300whp with out alot of lag?

The Hahn Super16g, it can reach 350whp and still has close to the same spool time as the TD04.

2k2patriotblueneon · Post by **2k2patriotblueneon** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:22 pm

speedyrb29 wrote:hmmm what s a good turbo to get that will give me the 300whp with out alot of lag?

Stock SRT with supporting mods. But if your already doing a trans swap you shoulda just did the SRT swap.

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:09 am

srt swap = to much money for me lol

rOniN · Post by **rOniN** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:15 pm

Srt swap is cheaper than what you say you want to do in your first post.

From the parts you listed, to do all of that will cost like 4-7k. Do you know how to install all of those parts or are you going to have a mechanic do it?

Plus all of the little parts that you need will be quite expensive. The srt swap is well worth the money.

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:25 pm

im doing all the install. thing about the srt swap is that for me to find 1 and get it shipped to me will be alot plus too get all the little parts that i need for that. and then ill want to upgrade it. where if i go this route i wont want to upgrade it ill have it done. and i dont want a 500 hp beat i just want around 300 400 tops and i need it to be some wat reliable. its just my summer car. and i already have half the parts i need. if i really wanted to go the srt route id buy 1 a few yrs down the road when the price gose down a lil more on them and avoide the swap all togeather.

03neonRT · Post by **03neonRT** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:30 pm

I agree if your doing a transmission swap you might as well swap in the 2.4 as well.

But i can also see how you wouldnt want to mess with the engine swap...

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:37 pm

thats what i like about rebuilding the 2.0 it will be plug in play minus tuning the turbo. even if i put in a 3.55 trans instad of the 3.94 i just out in it will be plug and play.

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:28 pm

should i go with a .20 or .40 bore?

eVilcreations · Post by **eVilcreations** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:47 pm

How much boost are you planning on running? Water/Meth injection plans at all?

Honestly, unless you plan on doing a LOT of PnP(head, turbo, turbo manifold, intake), Large Bore TB/Spacer, probably larger cams, and a VERY open dump....you probably won't hit your goal of 300 whp strictly with tuning and the setup you have listed.

If you figure all of the bolt-on mods that SRT guys have to do to get 300whp.....the smaller motor with the same turbo will have a hard time making that kind of power without the mods that I mentioned above.

I'm not trying to discourage you, so please don't take it that way...I just know from experience what it took for me to hit 300whp with the full SRT powerplant.

Josh

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:24 pm

well im deff thinking about .20 over bore possible .40. and im going to get a custom intake probly from lonewolf. water injection may be down the road. and i have a full p+p head decked 3 angle valve job etc etc on the way too

ms may also be a future possiblity once i get everything installed and tuned on like an emanage.

rOniN · Post by **rOniN** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:44 pm

How much money do you have for this project?

2k2patriotblueneon · Post by **2k2patriotblueneon** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:09 pm

You are already over the price tag for a swap....lol.

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:36 am

well im doing this over the course of the winter its not gonna haoppen in a month.

eVilcreations · Post by **eVilcreations** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:13 am

ok guys, he obviously doesn't want to do a swap....so lets just keep in on topic and help the guy out with his questions about turboing his 2.0L

Josh

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:17 pm

If you are going to a standalone, go with a dohc swap, you'll thank yourself later.

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:33 pm

invujerry wrote:If you are going to a standalone, go with a dohc swap, you'll thank yourself later.

why will i thank myself later? and i thought the oil passages dont line up or somthing like that? unless thats only the srt/pt dohc heads