STARTER Motor?

GTS · Post by **GTS** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:51 pm

My starter is about to go out on the Neon and I was wondering if anyone knows if a starter from a 1st gen SOHC would fit in mine. There are a bunch of them on ebay for cheap. THe one for my 2001 Neon is over 200$ and I dont feel like spending so much.

I noticed an SRT starter out there too but I doubt that it would fit at all.

From what i understand these are the part numbers.

2.0.L 4793493
2.0L HO 5033133AA
1.6L 5293135AA

Are these ^ #s right?

Can someone give me prices.

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:17 am

No, a 1st gen starter will not work.

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:39 pm

anyone know how to get to the bottom bolt on the starter?

i got my starter off ebay for $50. and it has a 30 day warranty on it

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:16 am

REMOVAL - 2.0L AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

Disconnect the negative battery cable.
Remove the air cleaner box, refer to the air cleaner box removal/installation in this section.
Remove the 2 upper bracket bolts for the intake support (INTAKE SUPPORT BRACKET).
Raise vehicle and support.
Remove the oil pan support bracket (OIL PAN BRACKET).
Remove the intake support bracket (INTAKE SUPPORT BRACKET LOWER BOLTS).
Disconnect the battery cable and solenoid connection from the starter.
Remove the starter bolts.
Remove starter.

One thing that was a pain on my car is how to get the starter out! I basically did the above, but I removed the positive wiring and the black bracket from the starter. Then I fought but fed the starter out the top once the wiring and bold were removed.
On a non-mag motor, I dont know how much room you have down below but with a mag motor the plenum is to big to feed the starter out the bottom....

blue demon02 · Post by **blue demon02** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:19 am

Mopar00Neon wrote:No, a 1st gen starter will not work.

That is not correct. They infact will work. The blocks are the same also you can swap any year from 96-02.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:07 pm

^^^
I cant tell you that for sure since the part number changed

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:00 am

blue demon02 wrote:
Mopar00Neon wrote:No, a 1st gen starter will not work.
That is not correct. They infact will work. The blocks are the same also you can swap any year from 96-02.

Uh, no. That IS correct.

The starter motor is physically the same, but the solinoid is mounted differently. Why do you think 1st gen people want to buy 2nd gen starters when they swap magnum intake manifolds on and such?

95-96 uses one starter*
97-99 uses one starter*
00-05 use another
SRT, Im not sure on.

*Solinoid connectors were different for these years.

blue demon02 · Post by **blue demon02** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:18 am

BlackRoseRacing wrote:^^^
I cant tell you that for sure since the part number changed

Can you post the part numbers?

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:10 pm

ok, i just dropped in 2 starters and neither of them did anything. could there be something else wrong? my battery is puttin out 12+ volts, all my grounds are good. idk what else to do!

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:49 pm

neon_ert3 wrote:ok, i just dropped in 2 starters and neither of them did anything. could there be something else wrong? my battery is puttin out 12+ volts, all my grounds are good. idk what else to do!

Have you had your battery load tested? Sometimes a battery will read 12+ volts when its just sitting, but itll drop to next to nothing the second a load is put on it. Common with bad/dead cells.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:10 pm

Have you manually tried jumping the starter?

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:38 pm

im having a similar problem

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:25 pm

yeah, i manually jumped it. is something wrong with my ignition? ok it turn over then. i guess this gives me an excuse to put a push start in. NOW i have no kinda spark at all. man this really sux.

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:34 pm

for me when i turn the key i get this weird whine noise and my fuse box makes a lil click noise once. then earlyer i got a repeated tick tick tick tick which was very fast, it would keep doing this as long as i had the jey turned to the on position as to start it.

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:28 pm

speedyrb29 wrote:for me when i turn the key i get this weird whine noise ....

as in something spinning.... then its the starter. its not kicking out.

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:44 pm

no the whine sounds like its comming from near the back of the engine like near the steering colum.

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:00 pm

neon_ert3 wrote:yeah, i manually jumped it. is something wrong with my ignition? ok it turn over then. i guess this gives me an excuse to put a push start in. NOW i have no kinda spark at all. man this really sux.

i put a push botton in from the brown wire to power since i cant get it to turn over anyonther way. will the push button be fine there or should i buy a new ignition switch? the starter is fine. now im not gettin a spark or nothin. could it be the coil pack? IDK someone plz help me!

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:31 pm

so you installed a push botton start? how dose that work dose it just by pass everything? what about the skim moduale do u just have to have ur key in the ignition in the on position? i might do the same install a push botton start and a battery kill switch becuase i can figure this out either.

GTS · Post by **GTS** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:40 pm

So now does the 1st gen starter work on the second gens or does it not what is the deal?

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:37 pm

speedyrb29 wrote:so you installed a push botton start? how dose that work dose it just by pass everything? what about the skim moduale do u just have to have ur key in the ignition in the on position? i might do the same install a push botton start and a battery kill switch becuase i can figure this out either.

i just hooked the brown wire to one side of a push switch and the other to the battery.

GTS wrote:So now does the 1st gen starter work on the second gens or does it not what is the deal?

sorry idk. i just got a 2gn starter off ebay for 50bux.

GTS · Post by **GTS** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:11 pm

Another question. The Magnums being different I know their starters are a little different too so if I get a magnum starter is that going to fit fine on the regular base motor. I dont have time to go out there and look for pictures and the differences between the two.