NGC open loop?

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NGC open loop?

Post by esteinmaier » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:23 pm

Anyone boosting an NGC car? If so, how did you get it to open loop at WOT? Whenever I boost, the ECU is trying to lean me out to 14.7:1 a/f ratio. The only way around it that I've found so far is to pull the upstream o2 sensor, and I know that isn't good.

Note: I've got rubber washers damping the knock sensor that I intend to pull out.

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Post by CA180 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:52 pm

There's a guy on the other org that says he's runnin boost on a stock NGC controlled car without any electrical mods. Might try asking him.
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Post by esteinmaier » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:35 am

That was me. I discovered it wasn't true.
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Post by CA180 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:50 am

lol... go figure. Not laughing at you, just funny that I tried to refer you back to you.

Does it run normal every other time? Only having issues with open loop? Did you check your TPS? Not sure if that would effect, just throwing it out there.
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Post by esteinmaier » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:58 am

TPS reads 74.5% Although it's going into open loop based on engine load. For some reason the ECU won't go to 100% engine load, and I have no idea how the ECU decides what the engine load is.
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Post by CA180 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:40 am

Prolly through the map sensor
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Post by esteinmaier » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:01 am

I have an AOBE I'm gonna try. I'll see what that does for it. It doesn't stumble into boost though. Maybe it's just the NGC's way of saying screw you...
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Post by CA180 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:03 am

Lol,,, sounds about right!

I've been reading bout the AOBE, sounds like that should help... I havent boosted a car that wouldnt take it,,, this one may just need a little coaxing in the right direction
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Post by esteinmaier » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm

Verdict is that the AOBE didn't fix it. I'm beginning to blame it on a bad ECU, seeing as I've tried everything else.
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Post by INVUJerry » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:29 pm

Yeah, you could try trying to get a new one from the dealer (ouch) or just do a MS, cuz they pwn.

Did your TPS sensor go up?

Did you remember to do your TPS reports?
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Post by 03blackrt » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:03 pm

invujerry wrote: Did you remember to do your TPS reports?
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Post by tooslow » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:22 am

yep just go ms my car also went real lean when I had the rrfpr and went into boost. they have decoded the ngc crank so it should be a pretty simple installation.
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