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Doing a SRT-4 Motor swap into your Neon, maybe even a 2.4... have questions about it, what you'll need or what issues you'll run into? Answers can be found in here.
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Post by Diablo0 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:44 pm

Oh okay... yah you wont', just make sure they flash it to the VIN that the SKIM and keys came from and you'll be good to go.
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:26 pm

Diablo0 wrote:Oh okay... yah you wont', just make sure they flash it to the VIN that the SKIM and keys came from and you'll be good to go.
quick question, you said that you are still using your ket and remote for you car correct? what vin did you flash your ecu with?
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Post by Diablo0 » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:43 pm

I'm using the SRT keys but with my R/T remotes. I didn't reprogram anything, just swapped over the SRT ECU, SKIM and ignition and use the SRT keys. For the Remotes I never swapped over the SRT RKE unit since I didn't have any of the remotes from the SRT so I just kept the R/T instead and it works fine.
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:03 am

ah ok, make sense now. thanks...
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Post by Dark-one » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:30 pm

i had to switch my abs module cause the traction one in my 01 r/t had a differnet plug than the srt one. I paid 3k for everything i needed off the car.
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:51 pm

Dark-one wrote:i had to switch my abs module cause the traction one in my 01 r/t had a differnet plug than the srt one. I paid 3k for everything i needed off the car.
so are you saying that i will for sure need to get an abs module out of an srt cause of the tractoin control system? cause i am pertty sure after the swap, the traction control will not work...
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:46 am

to somewhat bring this back to life, i had a question on the srt brakes, i know for the swap i'll need the calipers, rotors, knuckle, and steering rack, but could i swap out the brakes now before i do the engine swap? cause i know my brakes are shot and am in need of new ones, and if i could swap them out now would be great cause i got the calipers and rotors, and picking up the steering rack and knuckle this weekend....bill
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Post by hansken_yo » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:58 am

I'm doing that brake swap prior to the engine swap...but saving the steering rack for the engine swap being that there has been descrepancies over whether it is needed or not and that it is beyond my current skill. I figued 2 months might not be to big an issue on my tires.
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:47 pm

well i know the steering rack is needed for sure on my car cause evilcreation was going through tires like no other, i was just curious if it'll work....
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Post by Diablo0 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:43 pm

Yah, you can swap them over without a problem. You also need the flex brake line that bolts to the caliper. Other than that you should be set with the parts you're collecting.
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:29 am

cool, just wanted to make sure...thanks
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:36 pm

here is the list of things that i have gathered now, i think i might still be missing some things so if you guys dont mind, add them on....
both radiator hoses
skim with key
motor mount and trans mount (boomba)
flex fuel line
throttle cable
clucht master and slave
pcm bracket
safc2 with tach adaptor
head cluster
srt fuel pump
stage 2 pcm
3 bar tip and senson
motor
trans
clutch
flywheel
maxxfab 3inch o2 housing
ago wga
turbonetics hardpipe with raptor bov
stock hotside pipe
axles and half shaft
engine wiring harness
engine bay harnss
interior harness
stock cat-back
needswings V5 downpipe with e/cut-out
stock fmic
starter motor
power steering pump
alternator
whasher fluid bottle
shift cables
nvld pump and bracket
short ram intake
srt a/c
calipers
rotors
brake line
purve valve
pedals


now i know i still need
steering rack
knuckle
all the belts
power steering line
fuel line from tank to bay

and i can think of anyting else at the moment, if you guys see soemthing i am missing, like i said, do add on....thanks bill
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Post by refect » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:55 pm

list looks to be pretty complete for the main stuff. minus the parts you listed you still need. however i didnt see you list an intermediate shaft, fuel line foming from the fuel tank to engine bay, hot side intercooler pipe, a radiator overflow can, thorttle body, intake manifold, turbo/manifold, and srt clutch/brake pedal assembly.
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:14 am

refect wrote:list looks to be pretty complete for the main stuff. minus the parts you listed you still need. however i didnt see you list an intermediate shaft, fuel line foming from the fuel tank to engine bay, hot side intercooler pipe, a radiator overflow can, thorttle body, intake manifold, turbo/manifold, and srt clutch/brake pedal assembly.
the motor is a complete motor with the throttle body, intake manifold, turbo/manifold, and i do have pedals, forgot to mention them and i do have the stock hotside pipe and the half shaft, so i'll update that list, and i thought i didnt need the fuel line from the tank to the bay, if i do, i'll get that ordered this weekend hopefully, i am gonna try to order everything that i can this weekend so can start swapping soon, been waiting way to long to prolong it....
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Post by refect » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:30 am

only reason to get the fuel line from the gas tank to the engine is because the end part on the engine bay side faces to the driver side rather than straight out in front. it will get in the way of the stock radiator overflow can. it is not 100% neccessary because there are ways around it, but it will make it easier if you are trying to use the stock overflow can.
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Post by Diablo0 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:37 pm

refect wrote:only reason to get the fuel line from the gas tank to the engine is because the end part on the engine bay side faces to the driver side rather than straight out in front. it will get in the way of the stock radiator overflow can. it is not 100% neccessary because there are ways around it, but it will make it easier if you are trying to use the stock overflow can.
What he said... its not totally necessary but if you want to use the stock overflow bottle it'll make for an easier install without having to ghettorig something or try to bend the fuel line to clear the bottle.
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:27 pm

Diablo0 wrote:
refect wrote:only reason to get the fuel line from the gas tank to the engine is because the end part on the engine bay side faces to the driver side rather than straight out in front. it will get in the way of the stock radiator overflow can. it is not 100% neccessary because there are ways around it, but it will make it easier if you are trying to use the stock overflow can.
What he said... its not totally necessary but if you want to use the stock overflow bottle it'll make for an easier install without having to ghettorig something or try to bend the fuel line to clear the bottle.
cool, i'll get that as well then cause i wanna make this swap and easy as possible, and try not to hit any snags on the way, were gonna try to do the whole thing over one weekend, atleast thats teh goal, we'll see what happens with it.....
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Post by refect » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:44 pm

do you have the intermediate shaft? i know some trannys dont have them on it when you buy them without the axel setup. or if they do they are sometimes broke...
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:47 pm

refect wrote:do you have the intermediate shaft? i know some trannys dont have them on it when you buy them without the axel setup. or if they do they are sometimes broke...
i do believe i do, i think i forgot to put that in there, i look agian to make sure, i have been collecting parts for a year and four months now, i'll look again once i get home from work....
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:55 am

so i got a question, are the abs modules in the engine bay different from an 01 R/T compared to an srt? like where the harness would plug into?
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:43 am

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Post by Adam K. » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:06 am

01neonrtblk wrote:so i got a question, are the abs modules in the engine bay different from an 01 R/T compared to an srt? like where the harness would plug into?
They are not the same.

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Post by c2k » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:37 am

The ABS Module is NOT where the traction control is located. The Traction control is ingrated into the 01-02 RT clusters.

I still have traction control, and i love it :)
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:22 pm

c2k wrote:The ABS Module is NOT where the traction control is located. The Traction control is ingrated into the 01-02 RT clusters.

I still have traction control, and i love it :)
how did you manage that? cause the harness obviously does not plug in.
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Post by Adam K. » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:35 pm

I still have traction control, and i love it :)
Traction? What is that? Man I need some better tires. :lol: My R/T cluster is long gone so no traction control for me I guess

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Post by Diablo0 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:02 pm

01neonrtblk wrote:
c2k wrote:The ABS Module is NOT where the traction control is located. The Traction control is ingrated into the 01-02 RT clusters.

I still have traction control, and i love it :)
how did you manage that? cause the harness obviously does not plug in.
The cluster is swapable. The cluster is the unit where your speedo and tach are located.
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:55 pm

Diablo0 wrote:
01neonrtblk wrote:
c2k wrote:The ABS Module is NOT where the traction control is located. The Traction control is ingrated into the 01-02 RT clusters.

I still have traction control, and i love it :)
how did you manage that? cause the harness obviously does not plug in.
The cluster is swapable. The cluster is the unit where your speedo and tach are located.[/quote

i was more reffering to the abs module and not the cluster, sorry for the confusion,]
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Post by Diablo0 » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:57 am

I believe the ABS Module is identical. You won't need to swap it... when I compared them they were the same on my car :-?
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Post by 01neonrtblk » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:11 pm

Diablo0 wrote:I believe the ABS Module is identical. You won't need to swap it... when I compared them they were the same on my car :-?
i'll have to peak at it later, as it sits, i got brakes but no abs, oh well, it runs, thats the main thing,
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Post by c2k » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:48 am

01 abs module is completely different from the srt....

the trac control is a part of the 01-02 rt cluster.

how do I know? cuz when I go WOT in 2nd gear and I see my light flash up 'TRACTION' and i steadily hold 6,000 rpm for maybe a good 1-2 seconds until the tires hook up then i shift to 3rd.

when I turned off my trac control, I tried to do the same thing. tires would spin like crazy and wouldnt hook up as fast as i would w/ my trac control.
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