Red Light Circle on my cluster. What is it?

danman132x · Post by **danman132x** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:11 pm

My car didn't come with the owner handbook and I'm stumped on what the red circle is on my cluster, on the right side of the tach in the black. Comes on only when you turn the key to the on position and after the car is on, stays out.

davidalindsey · Post by **davidalindsey** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:29 pm

That is the Sentry security deterrent alarm .
Basically it is the alarm light. It flashes when you put the alarm on.
It also detects the Key so if you have the wrong key the car wont start.

blue demon02 · Post by **blue demon02** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:34 pm

davidalindsey wrote:That is the Sentry security deterrent alarm .
Basically it is the alarm light. It flashes when you put the alarm on.
It also detects the Key so if you have the wrong key the car wont start.

Partialy correct. It is associated with your Syntry. But our cars do not come with alarms. They have keyless entry systems but this is in no way an alarm. When you start the car every idiot light in the dash will come on and one by one go out as the PCM tells the cluster that it should not be on. If the light where to stay on your car would not run. Not realy sure why the owners manual doesn't tell you what it is. It should.

ilpadrino · Post by **ilpadrino** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:57 pm

There have been too many posts concerning this topic

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Post by **Diablo0** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:30 pm

blue demon02 wrote:
davidalindsey wrote:That is the Sentry security deterrent alarm .
Basically it is the alarm light. It flashes when you put the alarm on.
It also detects the Key so if you have the wrong key the car wont start.
Partialy correct. It is associated with your Syntry. But our cars do not come with alarms. They have keyless entry systems but this is in no way an alarm. When you start the car every idiot light in the dash will come on and one by one go out as the PCM tells the cluster that it should not be on. If the light where to stay on your car would not run. Not realy sure why the owners manual doesn't tell you what it is. It should.

Actually... our cars do come with an alarm to an extent, it just needs to be turned on if it wasn't already from the factory. My '02 was never turned on so I had to take it to the dealer with instructions I found online to have them turn it on. When the alarm is turned on it's very basic, lock your doors with the remote and tada, light comes on and starts blinking. Once the blinking slows down after about 10-15seconds if you were to say, reach in through the window and unlock your door instead of using the remote then open your door the horn will go off, lights flash... ect. As I said though, a lot of cars it seems weren't turned on from the factory and many dealers also have no idea how to turn it on.

Besides the alarm though that light does also take part in the sentry system as stated above. If the right SKIM module isn't detected, or a wrong key is used to start the car then the light should turn on to let you know that the Sentry system has prevented the car from starting.

Post by **jonnymopar** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:32 pm

ilpadrino wrote:There have been too many posts concerning this topic .

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blue demon02 · Post by **blue demon02** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:52 pm

Diablo0 wrote:
blue demon02 wrote:
davidalindsey wrote:That is the Sentry security deterrent alarm .
Basically it is the alarm light. It flashes when you put the alarm on.
It also detects the Key so if you have the wrong key the car wont start.
Partialy correct. It is associated with your Syntry. But our cars do not come with alarms. They have keyless entry systems but this is in no way an alarm. When you start the car every idiot light in the dash will come on and one by one go out as the PCM tells the cluster that it should not be on. If the light where to stay on your car would not run. Not realy sure why the owners manual doesn't tell you what it is. It should.
Actually... our cars do come with an alarm to an extent, it just needs to be turned on if it wasn't already from the factory. My '02 was never turned on so I had to take it to the dealer with instructions I found online to have them turn it on. When the alarm is turned on it's very basic, lock your doors with the remote and tada, light comes on and starts blinking. Once the blinking slows down after about 10-15seconds if you were to say, reach in through the window and unlock your door instead of using the remote then open your door the horn will go off, lights flash... ect. As I said though, a lot of cars it seems weren't turned on from the factory and many dealers also have no idea how to turn it on.

Besides the alarm though that light does also take part in the sentry system as stated above. If the right SKIM module isn't detected, or a wrong key is used to start the car then the light should turn on to let you know that the Sentry system has prevented the car from starting.

I was not aware of that. Mine was deffinitly one of the many that did not get turned on. I have never heard of them having any type of alarm Good to know.

ChrisRT · Post by **ChrisRT** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:07 pm

My alarm works. 01 R/T MSE

davidalindsey · Post by **davidalindsey** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:15 pm

I did not know some of them are not turned on, I though they where just on from the factory or something.
So some of them have the alarm its just not "turned on" why wouldent they just have them on to begin with.
How would you trun it on?

04NeonsX · Post by **04NeonsX** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:27 pm

I would also love to know how to turn on the alarm mine never blinked when i locked the car with the keyless.

glasswars · Post by **glasswars** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:55 pm

Diablo0 wrote: Once the blinking slows down after about 10-15seconds if you were to say, reach in through the window and unlock your door instead of using the remote then open your door the horn will go off, lights flash... ect.

That happened to me once. When I park in my garage I'll leave the windows down then lcok the car. I went to get something out of my car and when I got down to the car I was like FUCK I forgot my keys (my house is 3 stories) but I was like "O wait the windows are down lol" so I reached in to unlocked it, opened the door and EEE!! EEE!! EEE!!. Needless to say, I had to run up 2 flights of stairs then back down to turn it off, lol.

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:45 pm

How do I turn mine on?!?

Post by **Diablo0** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:13 am

Here's a link to the instructions on SRTforums

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74175

This really only works if you have RKE (Remote Keyless Entry) so if you don't have that there's a very high chance you don't have VTSS. When I went in my dealer had no idea what I was talking about an insisted that there was no such thing however we made a deal that if it was there and the option could be turned on then it would be free of charge. However if it wasn't then I would pay the $30 labor cost since they didn't get anything accomplished.

Also, just as the instructions say in the thread, make sure they select PL for the Neon and not PT for the PT Cruise b/c your trunk will pop open if they don't do it right.

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:22 am

Diablo0 wrote:Also, just as the instructions say in the thread, make sure they select PL for the Neon and not PT for the PT Cruise b/c your truck will pop open if they don't do it right.

WHAT!? Damn I didn't know DCx could do that.

Post by **Diablo0** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:27 pm

Shush up

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:06 pm

Ahhh, I need a dealership. I'm going tomorrow.

04NeonsX · Post by **04NeonsX** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:39 pm

well i tried 3 dealerships and they all want to charge me some stupid flat rate for changin it but theres one more dealer im gonna try tomorrow.

IrishGuy · Post by **IrishGuy** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:57 pm

Well, I took mine today to the dealer for an oil change and guess what... mine had it. I'm not sure of a way yet to figure out if the car has it without going to a dealer. The service manager printed out the VIP Summary Report of my vehicle (lists all of its options) and we both went over it and no where on it did it say factory alarm - the only thing it listed for security devices were the "Keyless Entry Sys w/2 Transmitters" and "Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System."

The tech. ended up looking to see if the option was there with the DRB connected and was completely surprised that I in fact had it and that it was never turned on - he's never heard of this before.

Post by **Diablo0** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:13 pm

04NeonsX wrote:well i tried 3 dealerships and they all want to charge me some stupid flat rate for changin it but theres one more dealer im gonna try tomorrow.

Not surpizing... on my black car it was not turned on, on the white it was turned on. It's almost like hit or miss with some cars having it on and others not.

04NeonsX · Post by **04NeonsX** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:55 pm

im pretty sure i do have it though i mean i have keyless they just want to charge me for usin the tool to change it from keyless to the alarm part they dont want to do it for free even though its a factory thing. they just want to make a buck off me for somthin they should have done from the factory.

Nick Drake · Post by **Nick Drake** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:12 pm

^Tell them you'll call Dodge over it. It should be covered for free.