srt exhaust ??

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:58 am

i picked up my SRT exhaust today. i got everything, downpipe with cat, and everything after that. but my question is.. will it bolt on? can i just unbolt the old setup and toss this in?

and another question. is the SRT's cat more free flowing than the stock Neon's? what about a catco cat?

tamadrumr88 · Post by **tamadrumr88** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:12 am

im not too experienced with an srt4 exhaust setup but to the best of my knowledge the srt exhaust has no cat and no mufflers but it has two resonators.... on a non-turbocharged (regular neon or acr/rt for example) vehicle i believe that would qualify it as being a loud exhaust. the entire exhaust AFTER the downpipe (i believe) will bolt up but will require some valence modifications or a new srt rear valence..... can someone verify ALL of this???

01NeonRT · Post by **01NeonRT** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:43 am

SRT does have cat. The day a car is released without a cat is the day pigs fly. It should be pretty close to bolting up, but you may need a hammer to move things around a little.

andy

unsuper man · Post by **unsuper man** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:04 pm

the searth feature is your freind. the dowwnpipe with cat ii useless to you, as it bolts to a 02 housing on a TURBO. the catback section is what u need. disconect your old exhuast where thhe downpipe and catback meet. then just replace it with the srt cat back. u keep your stock downpipe/cat and throw away the od srt unit. this has been gone over 100000000000000000000 times. i hate you all.

mynameiskiller · Post by **mynameiskiller** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:13 pm

unsuper man wrote:the searth feature is your freind. the dowwnpipe with cat ii useless to you, as it bolts to a 02 housing on a TURBO. the catback section is what u need. disconect your old exhuast where thhe downpipe and catback meet. then just replace it with the srt cat back. u keep your stock downpipe/cat and throw away the od srt unit. this has been gone over 100000000000000000000 times. i hate you all.

lol. well said.

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:14 pm

unsuper man wrote:the searth feature is your freind. the dowwnpipe with cat ii useless to you, as it bolts to a 02 housing on a TURBO. the catback section is what u need. disconect your old exhuast where thhe downpipe and catback meet. then just replace it with the srt cat back. u keep your stock downpipe/cat and throw away the od srt unit. this has been gone over 100000000000000000000 times. i hate you all.

He speaks the truth!

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:48 pm

sorry... i was on someone else's computer, just long enough to ask the question so an answer would be here when i got home. thanks guys.

Nino@MODTECH · Post by **Nino@MODTECH** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:25 am

unsuper man wrote:the searth feature is your freind. the dowwnpipe with cat ii useless to you, as it bolts to a 02 housing on a TURBO. the catback section is what u need. disconect your old exhuast where thhe downpipe and catback meet. then just replace it with the srt cat back. u keep your stock downpipe/cat and throw away the od srt unit. this has been gone over 100000000000000000000 times. i hate you all.

Unfortunately...it is wrong info. The cat converter and the cat back section off an SRT does fit on a non-SRT Neon.

The SRT uses the same 4-bolt flange to the OEM exhaust manifold collector. In fact, its pretty much in the same location making it a straight swap. It will even bolt onto a Magnum manifold. The only exception is that if you use/have a Magnum header, you would need to have a bung installed for the upstream oxygen sensor. You will also have to notch the rear bumper a little to keep the tips from contacting.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:24 am

my tips do not touch the bumper. the exhaust is installed. myt buddy and i installe dit yesterday. but it sags a bit, and it leaks around where the cat back attaches to the factory piping. i am going ot go get a rpice on welding that part up today. pics up tonight i hope.

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:03 pm

ya i have an SRT rear with a 31" glasspack on the stock mid pipe, and i love the sound!
i had the stock SRT catback on for a day...after i couldnt hear or think anymore i installed the glasspack.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:12 pm

wow.. i was so tired this morning when i posted that.

i love the sound of this exhaust! i got the leak welded up today, and i am in love with this exhaust!

GrApHite03 · Post by **GrApHite03** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:31 am

Floyd wrote:ya i have an SRT rear with a 31" glasspack on the stock mid pipe, and i love the sound!
i had the stock SRT catback on for a day...after i couldnt hear or think anymore i installed the glasspack.

LOL i did the same thing myself... talk about nerve racking!

I got vids on my web-page (click sig) of before and after the glasspack if anybody cares to view/listen. Also my dyno vid has a 3rd gear wide open throttle pull from behing the car.

k3v

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:47 am

aww i cant goto your webpage at work...
ill hit it up when i get home tonight.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:13 am

I made the mistake of using an SRT backhalf on my 02 R/T, its loud obnoxtious, and I lost power. Im working on getting a flowmaster crossflow designed as a bolt on for the 2GN's.

mynameiskiller · Post by **mynameiskiller** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:41 am

brr wrote:I made the mistake of using an SRT backhalf on my 02 R/T, its loud obnoxtious, and I lost power. Im working on getting a flowmaster crossflow designed as a bolt on for the 2GN's.

ahh, finally a voice of reason...

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:02 pm

i'm ore of a form over function guy, i liek teh tone this exhaust has, and i like the look. fuck the perf. side for now, i wannaget my car looking good, if i wanna go fast, i'l get a 1st gen dohc 5 spd coupe and strip the shit out of it and dump money into go fast goodies, i wanna get the 2gn looking nice though.

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:08 am

theneonkid wrote:i'm ore of a form over function guy, i liek teh tone this exhaust has, and i like the look. fuck the perf. side for now, i wannaget my car looking good, if i wanna go fast, i'l get a 1st gen dohc 5 spd coupe and strip the shit out of it and dump money into go fast goodies, i wanna get the 2gn looking nice though.

Your my new best friend!

Im always being ripped on because i want my car to be unique and look good and not go fast. I also have that lovely NGC thing that made my desision for show over go so much easier

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:10 am

lol. welcome to the no go club floyd.

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:47 am

theneonkid wrote:lol. welcome to the no go club floyd.

give it time...people will come to the snail side

Resistance is futile!

[rant]Another thing that pisses me off is people that hate on everything except stock 1st gens...WTF is up with those people! [/rant]

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:39 pm

Floyd wrote:
[rant]Another thing that pisses me off is people that hate on everything except stock 1st gens...WTF is up with those people! [/rant]

100% agreed

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:04 pm

Vernon wrote:
Floyd wrote:
[rant]Another thing that pisses me off is people that hate on everything except stock 1st gens...WTF is up with those people! [/rant]
100% agreed

Vernon, this could be the start of a nice friendship

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:56 pm

Well the Flowmaster idea is great, but I cannot legally sell it. As for the All Slow but SHOW idea, yes the SRT system makes the car look good and from what im told, the sound is KILLER.
Daily driving, if I keep the car under 3K its fine....but once I hit the 7k rev the car is VERY loud. The STOCK 02 magnum resonator does not work well with the SRT backhalf as the power and noise ordinance is concerned. Its like taking your system and running just a converter and straight pipe all the way back to a dual split.
The car is SHOW and no GO.....

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:57 pm

lol. the exhaust seems louder now. dunno why, but over the last week it's almost liek the sound has changed, and gotten loudier and nastier.. but i like the nastiness... it makes me smile.

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:33 am

theneonkid wrote:lol. the exhaust seems louder now. dunno why, but over the last week it's almost liek the sound has changed, and gotten loudier and nastier.. but i like the nastiness... it makes me smile.

Didnt you install a glasspack?
Mufflers and glasspacks loosen up over time and change tone and pitch as the packing shifts in the muffler.

Stonebender · Post by **Stonebender** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:47 am

Sounds like it "broke in." A new exhaust's sound will change once it heats up and cools down a few times.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:30 pm

i am just running it with the resonators. i love the sound, i'm not complaining at all. i just noticed that teh tone changed a bit.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:32 pm

Well I tried something different today.....called up the local NAPA and asked for ANY 21/4 inch resonator. The guy I deal with mostly called me back with a resonator from a GM. The case is 4" diameter, 12-13" long(not counting the pipes welded to it). I cut out the factory 22k mile resonator and installed this GM model with an extension.
The results, power feels to be back somewhat....deep mellow tone...well actually here is the perfect way to descibe it..
A stock R/T with an SRT backhalf....notice how loud it is in normal driving and wailing on it to the rev limiter, the GM resonator cut the sound in half!!! It actually sounds legal now and some of the midrange power is back.
I looked through the stock resonator and I see why the car was so loud. Stock is just about a perfect straight pipe, except for a little bit, (and im talking little) of glass to change the tone of the exhaust. Remember, this was designed to work with the factory muffler, not just by itself. As for the SRT, factory it has dual resonators to keep the free flow, but also to tone it down, where as the R/T was not setup that way.
If you want to run the SRT backhalf, I recomend also using the SRT intermediate also.Plus if a cop pulls you over for noise, you can tell them its a completely factory system then....just my 2 cents

GrApHite03 · Post by **GrApHite03** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:53 pm

brr wrote: If you want to run the SRT backhalf, I recomend also using the SRT intermediate also.Plus if a cop pulls you over for noise, you can tell them its a completely factory system then....just my 2 cents

This has worked for me once... and used it to get an expection sticker. Had a few friendly words with a cop buddy of mine, who stated if its factory its ok... nice loophole!

k3v

Floyd · Post by **Floyd** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:08 pm

I have all kinds of "legal" paperwork in my glovebox for random things such as lighting and exhaust and tail lights and so on, so i cant get busted from having illegal items on my car.

weber · Post by **weber** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:33 am

You will need to modify the rear valence. It won't even fit correctly on an R/T that has the exhaust holes cut out of it. We ran the SRT exhaust on my bro's 02 turbo r/t. We had to widen out the holes on the back to make it look clean. And just like the rest said....good luck with the downpipe, haha. you are kinda lacking the turbo to hook it up to.

Anyway, its obnoxious loud. Stay away from it unless you really want some pissed off neighbors / family member when rolling in late at night.......and probably get tickets for noise. ITS LOUD LOUD LOUD.