"Kramers" racist outbreak! (NWS)

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:07 am

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjE0E5lgm9Q

Boy, does he have a temper on him! He was on Letterman tonight and tried to apologize.... It was so funny seeing such a funny dude try to act serious... Seinfield was on there, and he announced Richards (Kramer) was going to apologize, and he indeed did so... It was really weird and he looked like he was gonna cry, the funny part was he was calling them "Afro" americans in his thing on Letterman.... Don't black people get offended by that? IDK I am a cracker.

What do I know. (Joke guys)

He supposedly tried to say sorry to him right after, but it looks like meant what he said.

He really doesn't like it when people talk durin ghis stand up.. I guess it was pretty bad? Who knows....
I still love yah Kramer! You crazy bastard you!

Heres the dude he said it to and his response.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsYWKSHwgy0&NR

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:57 pm

i think this is stupid and blown out of proportion.....i think its stupid how black people can call white people a cracker to his face and its ok but if a white person says nigger its the end of the world.....its stupid.....you can't have this double standard where one race can use slurs but other races cannot....either we all can or no one can....i have plenty of black friends and i say nigger to them all the time.....they call me a cracker, i call them a nigger and we have a good laugh and go on with our friendly conversation.....i think this is just blown out of proportion

Ifixyawata · Post by **Ifixyawata** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:58 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the unfortunate end of Michael Richards' career.

702Neon · Post by **702Neon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:19 pm

well. it a bad joke gone wrong. i'm seriously serprised why black people are getting offended by N word. they say it everyday ....thousands of times a day and plus they call us crackers to the face and they expect us not to say it. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Kneegrows.
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Post by **Diablo0** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:32 pm

Just in case, I don't want this to turn into any sort of racial argument so I'd appreciate it if it didn't go there. Thanks

702Neon · Post by **702Neon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:46 pm

^^^^^^ gotcha man. lol you know more then half of people are happy to get into it.. i just said my peace and i'm out.
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MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:41 am

They were talking about it on the radio on my way to work and they played the main excerpt from it and they bleeped out the "nigger" but they didn't bleep out "cracker" ......... hmmmmmmmm

Bella Lugrossi · Post by **Bella Lugrossi** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:51 am

double standards FTL.

playboy2k4 · Post by **playboy2k4** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:20 am

Hey , Thats bullshit and yall know it

. That dumb mutherfucker said that shit first and then that guy replied. If I would've been there I would've whooped his ass right then and there. He just showed his true idiotic ass colors and now he's done. He should'nt have lost his cool. Other comedians get ridiculed and made fun of but they never lose there cool, but this dumbass just could'nt take it and had to come out of the closet. So go back and watch the fucking tape again and listen He said NIGGER first before the guy called him a CRACKER

, so it could be safe to say that that guy said it out of anger.

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:29 am

Bella Lugrossi wrote:double standards FTL.

couldn't of said it better

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:28 pm

playboy2k4 wrote:Hey , Thats bullshit and yall know it . That dumb mutherfucker said that shit first and then that guy replied. If I would've been there I would've whooped his ass right then and there. He just showed his true idiotic ass colors and now he's done. He should'nt have lost his cool. Other comedians get ridiculed and made fun of but they never lose there cool, but this dumbass just could'nt take it and had to come out of the closet. So go back and watch the fucking tape again and listen He said NIGGER first before the guy called him a CRACKER , so it could be safe to say that that guy said it out of anger.

I'm white, but I definitely agree with the black man on this one. ^^^

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:30 pm

im stayin out of this one.

sullygully · Post by **sullygully** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:16 pm

That was totally uncalled for. The audience member didn't help matters by calling him a cracker in defence, but either way, any racial slur is unacceptalbe, by any race, no matter what context they use it in.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:40 am

So go back and watch the fucking tape again and listen He said NIGGER first before the guy called him a CRACKER , so it could be safe to say that that guy said it out of anger.

No, once is enough. Calm down.

BTW, Kramer must have bad stand up.

heyitsstock · Post by **heyitsstock** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:12 am

1. cracker is probably the worst racial slur ever, what the hell is that anyway...its weak...it means nothing to me soo call me a cracker all u want it doesnt affect me but i can drop the n word and have u shittty bricks about how your are going to kick my ass...pretty good the "man" still got you dont he...
2. he is right he would have been hanging upside down 50years ago...its history, you remind us of slave days with the white man keeping you down and all today..
3. and i think this was supposed to be like "look how this word affects everyone" kind of joke but it got turned around..
4. hes right the first thing they probably would have done was either a beat his ass or shot him.....over a word
5. nigger (n) - a person who didnt work hard, lazy. < that was the original definition , it had nothign to do with race...
6.it was funny..
7.i feel bad for him
8. im not racist
9. he was appoligizing to the afro- community lol what im sry for that guy over there with the big lips lol i think he ment the african american community'
10.i dont like that either, they are americans... im not an irish american

Ifixyawata · Post by **Ifixyawata** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:01 am

So go back and watch the fucking tape again and listen He said NIGGER first before the guy called him a CRACKER , so it could be safe to say that that guy said it out of anger.

Were you at the show? How do you know no one, for example, heckled him with offensive name-calling beforehand? You know that 3 minute clip doesn't show you everything that happened. Of course, this doesn't justify or excuse Richards' actions, but it sure leaves us little evidence to judge the guy with, too.

And yes, he clearly was very angry. Michael Richards is NOT a stand-up comedian and probably didn't know how to deal with hecklers that well.

PS - Poop on this whole thing. I'm tired of seeing this shit on CNN and Fox News all the damn time. It's about as important as the food they had at Tom and Katie's fucking wedding. Now why is THAT news?!

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:39 am

^or why madonna had trouble adopting her baby from africa, or why michael jackson is selling never land, or why anna nichole smith left the bahamas....it doensnt matter.

news people should focus on important things. STuff thats happeneing here that doenst involve celebritiies. True, they are people too....but if this happened w/ a normal amatuer comedian, none of us would know unless we were there.

I havent watched the video, dont really care to, waste of time personally.

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:49 pm

news people are just kids that grew up wanting to be actors but were too ugly.....

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:32 pm

heyitsstock wrote:1. cracker is probably the worst racial slur ever, what the hell is that anyway...its weak...it means nothing to me soo call me a cracker all u want it doesnt affect me but i can drop the n word and have u shittty bricks about how your are going to kick my ass...pretty good the "man" still got you dont he...
2. he is right he would have been hanging upside down 50years ago...its history, you remind us of slave days with the white man keeping you down and all today..
3. and i think this was supposed to be like "look how this word affects everyone" kind of joke but it got turned around..
4. hes right the first thing they probably would have done was either a beat his ass or shot him.....over a word
5. nigger (n) - a person who didnt work hard, lazy. < that was the original definition , it had nothign to do with race...
6.it was funny..
7.i feel bad for him
8. im not racist
9. he was appoligizing to the afro- community lol what im sry for that guy over there with the big lips lol i think he ment the african american community'
10.i dont like that either, they are americans... im not an irish american

dude, you just need to keep these coments to yourself... its obvious that you are profiling black people

heyitsstock · Post by **heyitsstock** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:13 pm

no tell me im wrong...
"they" meaning the audience

Ifixyawata · Post by **Ifixyawata** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:47 pm

I'm pretty sure the ORIGINAL definition of the 'n'-word was as follows.

1 usually offensive; see usage paragraph below : a black person
2 usually offensive; see usage paragraph below : a member of any dark-skinned race
3 : a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons

usage Nigger in senses 1 and 2 can be found in the works of such writers of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles Dickens, but it now ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English. Its use by and among blacks is not always intended or taken as offensive, but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.

Quoted from M-W.com. Merriam-Webster's dictionary.

Think before you speak. I don't see the word lazy in there anywhere. People like Chris Rock, etc made up that whole "difference in black people and niggers" bullshit. NO, I'm not saying 'there is no difference'. I'm saying it's not ok to pick and choose the difference between the two. If you're using that word, you're only exemplifying your own ignorance. You think early American slaves were lazy? Doubtful, laziness would get you beaten or killed. Quit pulling things out of your ass.

Micheal Richards sucks at stand-up and has a short temper and probably ended any career he had with that outburst. He was probably heckled mercilessly because he probably wasn't too funny.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:17 pm

TNK wrote:im stayin out of this one.

+1
Let's get back to Neons.

heyitsstock · Post by **heyitsstock** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:30 pm

eh im pretty sure that the word just ment a lazy worker sadly i couldnt find anything on "my"definition...but it was derrived from negro...meaning black... a long the way it just got used incorrectly...
so yep ur right with ur def. its cool tho no worries...
You think early American slaves were lazy? Doubtful, laziness would get you beaten or killed.
no thats what i ment slaves were hardworking extreamly hardworking, however when a slave would slack off the owner would beat him and call him a lazy nigger....which is where the horrible term we today probably camefrom

i think if it didnt have a past it would be like calling me blanco...or a bligger...

you may think im abit off on that statement but think about it. if they never called them that and it was never used like it was then we would have no problem with it...

i think the best way to kill the word, is a dont use it. at all. which means no one could use the word...that would solve the problem..because it would not exist
and if people did use it then dont let it bother you, that will piss them off more and after a while people will realize that nigger doesnt hold the meaning as it once did, so why use it to piss people off. but that will never happen

hey guys look im not saying how i feel is right or how you should feel. i am just speaking my thoughts, if you dont like them well fine lets talk about it, which is what im trying to do...i am not trying to prove anyone wrong...

KrackstaR · Post by **KrackstaR** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:11 pm

I love it when a white person hears someone call someone a nigger and goes "gee they say it why cant I" Its a matter of respect i wouldnt call someone a bitch if i didnt know them neither will i call them a cracker or a nigger, now do i call my best friend a nigga, bitch retard....etc yeah . if a white, black, indian, who eva comes to me and call me a nigga, iam fucking them the fuck up i dont care who else they call it to . What kramer said was uncalled for, now what thoese ignorant people did in the show by inturpting him was wrong but if that was his defance then thats sad, he didnt even waste time he just called them a nigger with out thinking about it why couldnt they be "asswholes" naw he wanted to hit home and he did.

heyitsstock · Post by **heyitsstock** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:23 pm

well that basically explains it everyone. bingo nuff said
respect and i agree

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:42 am

^

it seemed like you were very strong on your ideas before.... now all of a sudden a black man posts and you say ''nuff said''

dude, you lost me

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:50 am

This thread FTL.

JRM · Post by **JRM** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:20 am

while everyone takes a

i think its time to

KrackstaR · Post by **KrackstaR** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:18 pm

jrm868s wrote:while everyone takes a i think its time to

:sign3:

I care about all you guys too much to even go down that road.

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