napster sucks

Panhead · Post by **Panhead** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:16 am

been trying to use napster, downloaded the newest version and first thing i get when i try to down load a track is an error. alll the previous versions of naptster where good, no rrors what so ever, just this new version sucks. anybody have simuliar problems?

Post by **Diablo0** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:43 am

Can't help ya but for now you'll probably wanna revert back to the old version

On a side note, I have a "Save Napster" shirt somewhere from when they were free and trying to fight the man

Panhead · Post by **Panhead** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:58 am

haha

i tried using a previous version and some old versions and it wont let me. got to update it. really, napster sucks and im canceling there service.

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:00 am

I haven't used Napster since Metallica got greedy.

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:54 am

LowNSlow wrote:I haven't used Napster since Metallica got greedy.

I like other P2P software, though.

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:58 am

Wow... people still pay for music?

So there ARE some honest people in this world still....

Bittorrent for me!

Nick Drake · Post by **Nick Drake** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:27 am

Opi wrote:Bittorrent for me!

Me too!

Panhead · Post by **Panhead** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:29 pm

Opi wrote:Wow... people still pay for music?

better believe it. my friend had thousands of free music on his comp and he got busted with ahefty fine...

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:47 pm

We all have friends of a friend who got busted... but seriously...lol... even if someone gets caught after a few years of music... what kinda hefty fine we talking about?.. After a few years you can make HUNDREDS of music CDs.. so take the hundreds and times it by say $15 or so each disk.... Im sure the fine is probably less

Post by **Diablo0** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:52 am

03neonSE wrote:better believe it. my friend had thousands of free music on his comp and he got busted with ahefty fine...

Did he share them or how'd they catch him?

hansken_yo · Post by **hansken_yo** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:54 am

03neonSE wrote:better believe it. my friend had thousands of free music on his comp and he got busted with ahefty fine...

Sheit and I thought downloading porn was risky.....

Panhead · Post by **Panhead** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:24 am

hansken_yo wrote:Sheit and I thought downloading porn was risky.....

it is risky...

he had about 5,000 to 10,000 songs on his comp. this was awhile ago, which i really cant tell you how much it was. i dont know if he was sharing or not...he probably was. they also conviscated his computer and hes not allowed to get it back. the fine was based on how much music they found on the comp.

Post by **Diablo0** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:33 am

Damn, know how much the fine was?

Panhead · Post by **Panhead** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:50 am

Diablo0 wrote:Damn, know how much the fine was?

im thinking of what they based on was noramlly a track costs a $1, times that to how many songs they found. it was about 8500 (not sure) songs they found. so the fine was $8500. not really sure how they calculated the fine or how they did it but i think thats what they did.

bige1030 · Post by **bige1030** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:20 am

That's generous, considering what they could do. See 17 U.S.C. § 504, 506, 18 U.S.C. § 2319, 3559, 3571.

The copyright owner, in a civil case, could elect either actual damages or $750-$3000 of statutory damages. If the copyright owner can prove that the infringement was willful, the statutory damages could go up to no more than $150,000. That appears to be for all infringements per work. Plus costs and attorney's fees, of course.

In a criminal case (either the copying was done for profit *OR* more than $1000 (retail) worth of material was copied within a 180-day period), for 10 copies or more valued at least $2500, the fine is not more than $250,000. Otherwise, it's not more than $100,000.

Panhead · Post by **Panhead** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:34 am

wow, didnt know that. like i said, i really dont know what his fine was. i just kinda gave an example to maybe how they did it. i just know he got busted and told me he got a hefty fine...just didnt tell me how much it was.

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:38 am

That's why I don't share, and the only time I have bittorrent running is when i want something.

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:31 am

Opi wrote:That's why I don't share, and the only time I have bittorrent running is when i want something.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:28 am

the law used to be that you were in trouble only if you shared the music, not if you downloaded it. Technically speaking, of course.

I imagine that has probably been rewritten by now, but oh well.

I prefer limewire for certain downloads. I'd never download music though.

bige1030 · Post by **bige1030** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:22 pm

TheRandom1 wrote:the law used to be that you were in trouble only if you shared the music, not if you downloaded it. Technically speaking, of course.

I imagine that has probably been rewritten by now, but oh well.

I prefer limewire for certain downloads. I'd never download music though.

The law has pretty much been the same in terms of that...infringing upon the exclusive right of the copyright holder to reproduce. It's just that the RIAA is getting more tech-savvy in figuring out that you were downloading. There is a limit as to what they can prove, though:

1. A LimeWire/Kazaa/etc. account was sharing a song over your Internet connection.
2. A song was being downloaded by someone using your Internet connection from a server that they were tracking.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:29 pm

Which still doesn't necessarily prove that it was you, as internet accounts and signals can be "stolen"

kevo · Post by **kevo** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:54 pm

the RIAA has a firm that reverse engineered a few of the p2p apps out there. Once they knew how their protocol worked they would simply write an app that would not only showed what users were sharing, it would also give them the IP address that was normally masked by the applications themselves.

this also got the RIAA in alot of trouble. if you read the EULA for most of the p2p apps, you are not allowed to even install their software if you intend to reverse engineer it. Kazza in tern sued the RIAA for copyright infringement.

03neonSE. if you get rid of your napster account, give rhapsody or urge a try. Rhapsody lets you pick your bitrate too. Do not try yahoo unlimited. It's basically a bogged down version of musicmatch jukebox with the ability to buy music.

CrashTeam · Post by **CrashTeam** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:51 pm

ITunes FTW!!!

GO APPLE GO!