Sweet

oklamopar · Post by **oklamopar** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:43 pm

*edited*

Why could dodge not do this with the "Charger".
make it look more like its namesake. sorry for the confusion...

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:46 pm

And what exactly would be the point in have two two door coupes, with the same general styling, thus taking sales form each other?

Or is it because I drive a VW that I don't see the point in badgingthe same car under the same brand with two different names?

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:49 pm

$\:D/$ where do i sign my name?

pos_neontech · Post by **pos_neontech** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:04 pm

Frizbe wrote:And what exactly would be the point in have two two door coupes, with the same general styling, thus taking sales form each other?

Or is it because I drive a VW that I don't see the point in badgingthe same car under the same brand with two different names?

Oh, so the rabbit isn't the exact same thing as the golf? And the golf isn't a non-hatch jetta? I'm confused now.

neon_ert3 · Post by **neon_ert3** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:14 pm

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:56 pm

pos_neontech wrote:Oh, so the rabbit isn't the exact same thing as the golf? And the golf isn't a non-hatch jetta? I'm confused now.

Do they still sell the Golf?
And let me know how a 3 door and 5 door hatch back equal the same thing as a four door sedan.

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:59 pm

yea def agree with frizbe on this one...

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:06 pm

J-Villa wrote:yea def agree with frizbe on this one...

Yeah, but the name calling isn't really necessary.

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:15 pm

03sxt wrote:Yeah, but the name calling isn't really necessary.

Your right.

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:17 pm

03sxt wrote:Yeah, but the name calling isn't really necessary.

i meant on the car thing...not the name calling

CA180 · Post by **CA180** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:17 pm

i must have missed something,,,

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:18 pm

it was edited

CA180 · Post by **CA180** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:26 pm

OOOOoooohhhh.... I see...

hmm

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:40 pm

J-Villa wrote:it was edited

Yeah Mike was right, name calling didn't help get my point accross.

I would like to say I don't think the Challenger design is bad, I think its cool, but the Charger needs to be a four door, or not exist at all. There is only room in the Dodge line up for one two door coupe.

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:47 pm

the rabbit replaced the golf....so next time you wanna insult someone do some research first.....i think the challenger is way better....my friend has a charger and i was not impressed

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:48 pm

Those pictures don't do any justice for the new Challenger, though. Ask the guys that have been to any Mopar shows lately or Carlisle earlier this year.

It won't come off the line exactly like that, but that son'bitch sounded nice when they fired it up and revved the piss outta' it.

Post by **Diablo0** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:07 pm

I still have video of it on my phone

MMMmmmm, yah it sounded good!

oklamopar · Post by **oklamopar** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:16 pm

Sales Did well when dodge had the challenger, charger, coronet, and demon. all two doors except for the coronet which was also optioned as a four door. all for a different price and option package. geared toward different buyers. granted the new "charger" is nice in its own right and as a four door sales have been fair. My thing is even as a four door they (designers) could have made it look MORE like the 68-70 dodge charger that its to represent. the mustang stepped up the bar and dodge countered with the challenger, which looks a lot more like the 70 challenger its supposed to.
That all i was saying.

glasswars · Post by **glasswars** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:43 pm

J-Villa wrote:it was edited

booo

Post by **Canada** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:21 am

03sxt wrote:Those pictures don't do any justice for the new Challenger, though. Ask the guys that have been to any Mopar shows lately or Carlisle earlier this year.

It won't come off the line exactly like that, but that son'bitch sounded nice when they fired it up and revved the piss outta' it.

Remove any LED looking lights, except the back panel and then I would be willing to place a bet that you're wrong there Mike...

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:21 am

Frizbe wrote:And what exactly would be the point in have two two door coupes, with the same general styling, thus taking sales form each other?

Or is it because I drive a VW that I don't see the point in badgingthe same car under the same brand with two different names?

I'm with you on that.
Eagle Talon
Plymouth Laser
Mitsubishi Eclipse

Dodge Stratus
Plymouth Breeze
Chrysler Cirrus
etc... I just don't understand the concpet behind doing that.

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:14 am

glasswars wrote:booo

not by me

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:51 pm

titansxt wrote:I'm with you on that.
Eagle Talon
Plymouth Laser
Mitsubishi Eclipse

Thisa is more along the lines of what I am trying to say, but the Charger Challenger thing would be like both the Talon and Eclipse being sold under the Mitsubishi brand. Two nearly identical vehicles veying for the same customer, costing realitivly the same ammount of money.

At least with the Jetta/Rabit they start at different prices (a bit not much different) while the Jetta provides Sedan sense with four doors and a trunk, which to me is much more enjoyable on a road trip. And the Rabbit gets you the extra cargo room (which I will need) without being a huge gas guzling SUV. Now the five door Rabbit dose start to 'step on some toes' with the Jetta, but there are enough buyers who want the sedan versus the hatchback to justify this.

I only used the VW thing because I drive one. Chrysler odse the same thing with the 300, Charger, and Magnum. People will buy the Magnum for extra space over the Charger, and likewise people will buy the 300 due to its superiorty complex. They don't want to be seen in a Dogde, but want a mid sized four door sedan, and don't mind the Chrysler name.

joelrgr · Post by **joelrgr** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:19 pm

it looks like it has down syndrome, i dont like the challenger at all.

sullygully · Post by **sullygully** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:13 pm

Frizbe wrote:And what exactly would be the point in have two two door coupes, with the same general styling, thus taking sales form each other?

Or is it because I drive a VW that I don't see the point in badgingthe same car under the same brand with two different names?

ummm, the golf and the rabbit come to mind

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:15 pm

sullygully wrote:ummm, the golf and the rabbit come to mind

My head is going to explode if you dont read the thread.

sullygully · Post by **sullygully** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:56 am

I read the thread, and i have more to add to it if you dont mind.

How can one car take sales away from another car if they are made by the same company? If anything, you are gaining sales, because you are making two cars very similar to each other, with just subtle differences, satisfying the picky customer.

Thats why for years auto makers have produced two of the same car, with just subtle differnces in body styling. For example: Ford and mercury, chrysler and plymouth, chevy and gmc. saab and subaru, etc.

Its pointless to question an auto maker on making these decisions, when they have already been doing it for years, with much success

duholt · Post by **duholt** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:36 am

it'd be nice if dodge made a reasonably priced 2 door... it was sad when they got rid of the 2 door neon... the challenger will probably be high 20's at least, which is deffinately not reasonable

pos_neontech · Post by **pos_neontech** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:20 pm

bad01neon wrote:the rabbit replaced the golf....so next time you wanna insult someone do some research first.....i think the challenger is way better....my friend has a charger and i was not impressed

who was i insulting? im too lazy to research, I just stated what I knew with a few question marks after it.