remote starter

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:15 pm

has anyone installed a remote starter on 02? and if so how hard is it?

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:39 pm

remote starters=death on your starter....especially in the cold

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:50 pm

bad01neon wrote:remote starters=death on your starter....especially in the cold

how?

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:02 pm

because when you turn your key, it kicks over untill it starts and you can turn it on and off to get it started if it doesnt start right up. with a remote starter it just kicks and kicks until it turns over.

sullygully · Post by **sullygully** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:44 pm

^^^^ uhhh, mabe a really cheap one does that, but not mine.

I can set the length of time i want it to turn over. And if it doesn't turn over first time, I can also set the time intervals between it turning over.

Mabe cheap ones to that, but definetly not most out there.

I don't think install is that hard if you have a little bit of electrical knowledge, however i couldn't tell you as i had mine install professionally as it came with the price of the starter.

Just look around at a shop that installs them for the price of the unit, then you don't have to worry

Ifixyawata · Post by **Ifixyawata** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:42 am

sullygully wrote:^^^^ uhhh, mabe a really cheap one does that, but not mine.

I can set the length of time i want it to turn over. And if it doesn't turn over first time, I can also set the time intervals between it turning over.

Mabe cheap ones to that, but definetly not most out there.

I don't think install is that hard if you have a little bit of electrical knowledge, however i couldn't tell you as i had mine install professionally as it came with the price of the starter.

Just look around at a shop that installs them for the price of the unit, then you don't have to worry

What did that run you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm thinking of this for my car, though I'm sure prices probably vary from place to place. I have a hookup at a local audio/security shop, so that's probably where I'll go if I decided to get it done.

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:24 am

sullygully wrote:^^^^ uhhh, mabe a really cheap one does that, but not mine.

I can set the length of time i want it to turn over. And if it doesn't turn over first time, I can also set the time intervals between it turning over.

Mabe cheap ones to that, but definetly not most out there.

I don't think install is that hard if you have a little bit of electrical knowledge, however i couldn't tell you as i had mine install professionally as it came with the price of the starter.

Just look around at a shop that installs them for the price of the unit, then you don't have to worry

same thing as w/ mine...mine cost me $500 installed. Ive had it for over 2 years and the only thing ive had to replace was my remote becuse a wire broke inside when i dropped it once and couldnt be fixed.

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:00 am

i dunno....ask any mechanic that doesnt sell them and see what they think....most will agree that they fry starters prematurely. im not quite sure why, but i dont know anyone that has had a starter more than 6months-a year after installing a remote starter

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:37 am

^me...I have had my current starter for over a year (after my stock one went out after 4 years..oem starter) and no problems.

Loud-e-nuf · Post by **Loud-e-nuf** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:59 am

I've had remote start on my Jeep for 8 years and in my Neon for 3 years. Both on original starters.
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dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:19 pm

my sister has had hers for about 4 years now

sullygully · Post by **sullygully** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:12 pm

5 years with mine, no problems yet.

Mines a Autostart, made by compustar(very popular) I got mine for just over $200 including installation. They go like hot cakes up here because of the cold winters, probably why they go for so cheap.

You can get the deluxe digital autostarts that double as an alarm as well, with all the bells and whistles for around $400 installed up here

CA180 · Post by **CA180** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:56 pm

I believe most good units come with a mudule that reads rpms. That way it knows when the motor is running, and keeps it from continuing to turn over

Post by **Canada** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:58 pm

I personally don't recommend car starters for anyone. When you first start your car its running about as rich as it possibly can. Runninglike this for an extended period of time (like more then 2-3 minutes) causes the excess fuel in the cylinders to "wash" the oil off the cylinder walls. This is never good for an engine.

Most people with remote starters leave their cars running for 5-15 minutes to warm up. NOT GOOD. I much prefer to go out, start my car, scrape the windows and brush the snow and then hop in and drive at very low RPM's always keeping it beow 2500 before shifting. This way the engine warms up quicker and isn't washing the oil off the cylinder walls.

All that said, I was at Best Buy today and they had them for $450 CDN installed for manual cars and $400 CDN for automatics.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:48 pm

i dont think its as big of an issue as you think

my parents have put remote starters on the last 6 cars, and then there is mine.

2002 neon: remote start since new, now has 95000 miles on it, runs great. original starter.

2000 stratus: remote start since nearly new, original starter, ran perfect, sadly totaled when a dumbass kid ran a stop sign 136000 miles

2000 stratus: replace above, remote start on for approximately 30000 miles everything original, uses the same amount of oil as it did when we got it.

2004 ion: remote start since 1000 miles. still new but the car runs perfectly, no problems at all, currently has 35000ish miles

2005 ram diesel: remote start since 18000 miles, original starter runs perfectly, currently has 50000ish miles. this does go into an elevated idle mode if it runs for more than a few minutes

1992 acclaim: it had the remote start for ~40000 miles. original starter, minimal oil usage, ran perfectly. got rid of it at 185000 miles

2004 neon: (mine) remote start since jan 05, put about 35000 miles on it, i use it alot. original starter, car uses some oil, but is within reason. used oil since new and if anything it decreased after the remote starter, not saying that it was the cause, but i think it was just the right time in the cars life.

mine was $650 installed because of the manual trans. i have seen good ones for autos run in the $200 to $400 range, depending on what kind of accessories you get on it.

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:45 pm

EclecticBlue wrote:I personally don't recommend car starters for anyone. When you first start your car its running about as rich as it possibly can. Runninglike this for an extended period of time (like more then 2-3 minutes) causes the excess fuel in the cylinders to "wash" the oil off the cylinder walls. This is never good for an engine.

Most people with remote starters leave their cars running for 5-15 minutes to warm up. NOT GOOD.

Mine automatically cuts the car off if a key isnt put in the ignition after 10 minutes.

indecisive · Post by **indecisive** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:45 pm

I was thinking on gettng one too... but all I keep getting asked is "What color key do you have?" I don't know about the black keys, but apparently the gray key (which I have) has some kind of chip in it...? Has anyone heard of that??

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:49 pm

gray key is called sentry key, which means the car will not stay on unless this key is in the ignition. The black key is of course, non-sentry equip'd. Sentry is a sort of theft protection, which keeps the car from being stolen.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:51 pm

it is simple to get around the sentry key system with a little bypass module.

moparguy04 · Post by **moparguy04** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:19 pm

Did they come out with a factory remote start? I thought I seen one on dodgeparts.com but I went back and look they took a lot of things for the neon down..

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:27 pm

racer12306 wrote:it is simple to get around the sentry key system with a little bypass module.

Did not know that. So, I'm assuming the sentry is this controlled by the pcm. Does the module just tap into the output? I installed my own alarm system, but it didn't have remote start.

Post by **jonnymopar** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:41 pm

Easiest way to get around the Sentry Key is if you have an extra key for your car, take the cover off of the steering column and zip tie a key somewhere in there where it won't get in the way. Voila, no more Sentry key to deal with. Plus, you can use the black keys after that since the car always sees the key that you zip-tied in there.

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:08 pm

Canada wrote:I personally don't recommend car starters for anyone. When you first start your car its running about as rich as it possibly can. Runninglike this for an extended period of time (like more then 2-3 minutes) causes the excess fuel in the cylinders to "wash" the oil off the cylinder walls. This is never good for an engine.

There is no harm in running a properly setup remote start system at all. The car runs rich at startup whether a remote controlled soleneoid or some dude in the cabin is starting the car. After the initial enrichment as the ECM see's the engine coolant warming up it will work back to stoich. The ECM is smart like that, just as it varies idle RPM depending on how cold out it is. There is no harm to idling the engine, although idling it more than about a minute or so is wasteful. Best way to warm up a car is to drive it.

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:37 am

I had an AviStart remote starter/alarm system on my 1999 Camry... had that vehicle for 5 years with no issues with that system.

I loved that system, but I was less than impressed with the under dash installation... which was perhaps more an issue of esthetics's than electrical since there never were any electrical issues. Perhaps given enough time there would have been. <shrug>

Check out the install when you pick it up... wires should be soldered and not just twisted together or crimped with a mechanical connector.

If you have the Sentry key then you will need some additional hardware/wiring to allow the remote starter to bypass that system.

On the colder days this winter I plan on leaving the Neon parked and taking the bus to work. As it is right now with the short distance I have to travel, the engine is almost but not quite reaching operating temperature by the time I arrive at work.

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:18 am

Block heaters FTW! Electric is still cheaper than gas! Of course they're only feasible if you can park where it can be plugged in.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:43 pm

the sticker on my sxt said it was equipped with a block heater, but i never saw any kind of plug on the car anywhere.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:50 pm

Thats interesting since you got the car in VA.

However, Cummins engines have the block heater already installed in the engine, you just need the $10 option to give you the cord. If you buy the cord later its $50 (I think).

If you would have bought the cord, you could have used the block heater.

Post by **occasional demons** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:30 pm

racer12306 wrote:Thats interesting since you got the car in VA.

However, Cummins engines have the block heater already installed in the engine, you just need the $10 option to give you the cord. If you buy the cord later its $50 (I think).

If you would have bought the cord, you could have used the block heater.

That sucks, my Cherokee came with the cord. don't know where the factory installed the block heater on the Neons. I would hope the front freeze plugs at least.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:42 pm

Yeah, my dad had to buy the cord from Geno's Garage because the original owner didn't get it.

Its pretty crazy that it's a $10 option when you buy the truck, but its a $50 part if you do it after you buy the truck.

itzthatvietguy · Post by **itzthatvietguy** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:40 pm

I have a compustar kind on a manual and no prob with original starter, The only thing I hate to start the engine I have to hold down the break in order to keep the engine running once I start the car or it'll shut off after 1 second once the engine start up. Another thing is that when I shut off the car it won't shut off right away once I have my E brake up, what it does is when i take the key out the engine won't shut off until i step on the brake or open the door driver door and close then it lock by it self.

(Does anyone know how do I get rid of this stuff, like I don't want to hold the brake to start my car up and the car won't shut off when I off the key)

I also got it done at a professional place. if you know please pm me