Poss ACR Milwaukee, WI

SlvrACR · Post by **SlvrACR** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:35 am

Looks like an ACR with wrong front bumper. Everything else matches.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?c ... ardist=254

neonpla · Post by **neonpla** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:47 am

yup, checked it on neons.org vin decoder.

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:05 am

I tend to agree

rich tideswell · Post by **rich tideswell** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:21 pm

call the dealer and run the VIN, they'll tell ya for sure

edit* reading owns me, should have looked at all the posts, sliver acr handled it

SlvrACR · Post by **SlvrACR** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:24 pm

Ya I emailed them but they wont believe me LOL. It is one though

rich tideswell · Post by **rich tideswell** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:45 pm

i wouldnt tell them what its is, they may try and raise the pirce........man its got quite a few miles though........ otheriwise i wouldn't mind picking it up

SlvrACR · Post by **SlvrACR** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:46 pm

No I told them it isnt worth that much. KBB is less then that.

rich tideswell · Post by **rich tideswell** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:00 pm

agree, trade in value at fair condition is $2400....and with those high miles, it could need suspension attention...Koni's don't grow on trees either....

SlvrACR · Post by **SlvrACR** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:19 pm

We have Dynamic struts not Konis like 1st gens.

rich tideswell · Post by **rich tideswell** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:26 am

well, f' me running...could have sworn they were Koni.....

dodgeneon00 · Post by **dodgeneon00** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:33 pm

I emailed them and asked if the car had been in a wreck or something because of the not-existent ACR front bumper,
they said, "not that we know of, we bought the car as is." so it could have been in a wreck or just the previous
owner sold the front bumper and got a different one.

rich tideswell · Post by **rich tideswell** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:10 pm

my money's on that it was wrecked at one point and they slapped a bone yard bumper on it, called it good.

TeckNeon · Post by **TeckNeon** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:32 pm

To the regular person, they would not notice the lip version of the bumper as opposed to the stocker. Then again, it's pretty easy to tear up a front bumper and not damage too much other stuff. That is prolly the case.

Still, it's a fair price for the car.

ACR MAN · Post by **ACR MAN** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:01 pm

I ran the VIN through DealerCONNECT and it is definitely an ACR. I just ran a Carfax check, and it said that on 9/6/2002 it was issued a Maryland Salvage Title at 18,363 miles. Carfax also said that on 6/25/2003 it was issued an Illinois Rebuilt Title, and on 12/2/2003 it was apparently titled (still rebuilt) to a new owner in Elgin, Illinois at 22,000 miles. In addition, Carfax said that it passed a state emissions inspection in Elgin, Illinois on 4/2/2005 at 57,000 miles.

So I guess we can assume that it was a front hit and when it was rebuilt the wrong front bumper fascia was installed. So, just how badly was it damaged in the crash, and how carefully was it repaired?

rich tideswell · Post by **rich tideswell** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:41 pm

ACR MAN wrote:I ran the VIN through DealerCONNECT and it is definitely an ACR. I just ran a Carfax check, and it said that on 9/6/2002 it was issued a Maryland Salvage Title at 18,363 miles. Carfax also said that on 6/25/2003 it was issued an Illinois Rebuilt Title, and on 12/2/2003 it was apparently titled (still rebuilt) to a new owner in Elgin, Illinois at 22,000 miles. In addition, Carfax said that it passed a state emissions inspection in Elgin, Illinois on 4/2/2005 at 57,000 miles.

So I guess we can assume that it was a front hit and when it was rebuilt the wrong front bumper fascia was installed. So, just how badly was it damaged in the crash, and how carefully was it repaired?

wow, thank you ACR MAN for looking into this car, and posting up what you've found.

rich tideswell · Post by **rich tideswell** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:19 am

I got prices on stuff i think this car might need from the dealer and offered the guy $1500, he passed. personally, given the salvage history, and the current state the cars in, $1500 is probably about fair.

Front bumper cover
5018993AA FRONT PRIMED FASCIA $477 list

front grill insert
5114161AA grill $128 list

dodge ram's head medallion that’s inset in the grill
KS76SZ1 medallion $23.70

all four struts
5272783AC fronts $749.00 each
5272785AC left $1135 each
5272784AC right $1110 each

radio delete plate
not available

antenna delete plug
2860332 $3

dual tip muffler
5278624AH muffler $227

clutch replacement parts, and all the bearings needed to do the job too.
4668400AF clutch $292
4670026AB release bearing $40.25

rear main seal for the engine (not changing a clutch without doing that too)
4621939AB rear main seal $16.75

clutch pedal pad
4683021 $3

brake pedal pad
4683021 $3 (same as above)

gas pedal pad
4669789 gas pedal $15.35

axle shaft seals where they go into the differential housing
4761107 drive shaft seal $6.25

SlvrACR · Post by **SlvrACR** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:34 pm

radio delete plate
Doesnt need because it has AC option to begin with

antenna delete plug
Doesnt need because it has AC option to begin with

dual tip muffler
Already has stock dual muffler

If you came into my shop and gave me that list I wouldnt even take you serious. The car is worth more then $1500 even if some of the ACR parts are gone. The car still is in good condition. Without inspection

rich tideswell · Post by **rich tideswell** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:46 pm

SlvrACR wrote:radio delete plate
Doesnt need because it has AC option to begin with

antenna delete plug
Doesnt need because it has AC option to begin with

dual tip muffler
Already has stock dual muffler

If you came into my shop and gave me that list I wouldnt even take you serious. The car is worth more then $1500 even if some of the ACR parts are gone. The car still is in good condition. Without inspection

i only emailed him cost for replacing the front bumper with the correct one, the suspension and the clutch. the muffler was on there only as an fyi for myself, same with the other stuff.

i disagree, car is not worth much due to its salvage history, and current state; atleast to me anyways. there are cars in better condition, with less miles, and more options within the same price range

ACR MAN · Post by **ACR MAN** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:10 pm

The problem with a prior salvage title vehicle is that you must carefully inspect the car to determine if the repairs were done properly. I recently looked at a 2001 ACR that a local guy owns, and the workmanship was awful to say the least. It's not the current owner's fault: he bought the car like that.

How bad was it? The car had apparently sustained a hit to the LF corner and down the driver's side. The bottom of the core support was still terribly twisted and bent. The tears in the front and rear bumper fascias were poorly repaired using fiberglass, and of course they were popping loose. The LR quarter panel had loads of bondo in it, and it still didn't look straight. None of the doors fit right, and the left side doors were clearly leaking dirt and water into the interior. The paint was really, really awful -- it looked as though it had been sprayed in a dirty garage by a blind person! Sadly, this sort of poor workmanship is quite common with home-built rebuilder vehicles.

After pulling all four wheels off and removing the front fender liners, I was pleased to discover that the body structure still looked pretty good. I don't think that the LF corner damage went as far as the front bumper beam. Both front strut towers looked straight, as did the upper load beam and lower rail. The only way to be sure about it, though, would be to take it to a competent frame shop and have them measure it up on the frame bench.

Conclusion: I would never buy a "rebuilt" or former salvage title vehicle without personally performing a thorough inspection.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:36 pm

Too bad this was salvaged, but if ya think about it, I think a current ACR or neon fan would domuch good for this gem...
Or diamon in the rough... if they wanted less than 2k for it, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Shame shame shame...

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