Just installed a AFX race PCM

Dodge00Neon · Post by **Dodge00Neon** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:35 am

WEll i got a used 2k race off the for sale section and had Howell Flash the vin for me. Got it installed yesterday. As soon as i started my car I got a 0505 code.... IAC.... WEll the car was ideling at 1k once i got her fully warmed up. This morning my car wouldn't even idle.... I had to keep bliping the gas for 30 seconds to a minutes before I got my car to idle and then it was ideling at 1k..... Before i put the Pcm in I had no coeds and my car would idle perfectly fine. My question is if i didn't have a problem efore could i all of a sunnden have a problem or is something with the PCm funny?

For the good news my throttle response and low rpm pulls are amazingly better.

Kernel Panic · Post by **Kernel Panic** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:36 am

Did you swap back to the old PCM? Results? Since the PCM is located just below the TB maybe to knocked loose/off or damaged the connector/wiring to the IAC(which is located on top of the TB).

TomZ · Post by **TomZ** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:44 pm

Is your "2k" PCM for your year? They are year specific.

Dodge00Neon · Post by **Dodge00Neon** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:50 pm

Kernel Panic wrote:Did you swap back to the old PCM? Results? Since the PCM is located just below the TB maybe to knocked loose/off or damaged the connector/wiring to the IAC(which is located on top of the TB).

My buddy actually disconnected are reconnected everything while i was underneath so i didn't even think about something being knocked loose. I'm gonna find out when i have a chance...

TomZ wrote:Is your "2k" PCM for your year? They are year specific.

Yes i know they are specific and yes it is for my year which is a 2k not 2k1 or 2k2.

Dodge00Neon · Post by **Dodge00Neon** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:04 am

Well nothings loose so i'm gonna swap back to the stock one when i get a chance.... I can live with it not ideling when cold but i can't stand a CEl staring me in the face......

noTe · Post by **noTe** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:35 am

Dodge00Neon wrote:i can't stand a CEl staring me in the face......

Just take out the CEL bulb.

Kernel Panic · Post by **Kernel Panic** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:19 am

noTe wrote:
Dodge00Neon wrote:i can't stand a CEl staring me in the face......
Just take out the CEL bulb.

Nice solution... Ignorance is bliss...

noTe · Post by **noTe** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:25 am

Kernel Panic wrote:
noTe wrote:
Dodge00Neon wrote:i can't stand a CEl staring me in the face......
Just take out the CEL bulb.
Nice solution... Ignorance is bliss...

Hehe..

JeremyJ · Post by **JeremyJ** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:59 am

^That's what I did. The car will always throw codes for all of the shit I've done to it, so why bother looking at that damn light?

Dodge00Neon · Post by **Dodge00Neon** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:08 am

Kernel Panic wrote:
noTe wrote:
Dodge00Neon wrote:i can't stand a CEl staring me in the face......
Just take out the CEL bulb.
Nice solution... Ignorance is bliss...

:

i'd rather put my stock computer in than remove an all imprtant light just b/c somethings not right. To me thats just plain dumb.

Kernel Panic · Post by **Kernel Panic** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:12 am

JeremyJ wrote:^That's what I did. The car will always throw codes for all of the shit I've done to it, so why bother looking at that damn light?

true, but where I live for MV inspection they plug into the OBD port. Any CEL's/OBD errors and you fail. No getting around that since it is all computerized now. Well at least I don't have to worry about the sniffer test.. Even my AF/X PCM passed inspection.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:37 am

send it to howell. someone else had this problem. 99.9% says its just a bad ecu. like a bad core from a junkyard or something that someone sent it.

mine worked beautifully.

Dodge00Neon · Post by **Dodge00Neon** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:14 am

Louie wrote:send it to howell. someone else had this problem. 99.9% says its just a bad ecu. like a bad core from a junkyard or something that someone sent it.

mine worked beautifully.

I was thinking about looking into that but not sure if they would have a problem with me buying the computer second hand. Like I said i didn't buy it new I got it from the for sale board.

GaryHowell · Post by **GaryHowell** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:09 pm

Dodge00Neon wrote:
Louie wrote:send it to howell. someone else had this problem. 99.9% says its just a bad ecu. like a bad core from a junkyard or something that someone sent it.

mine worked beautifully.
I was thinking about looking into that but not sure if they would have a problem with me buying the computer second hand. Like I said i didn't buy it new I got it from the for sale board.

It will not be covered under warranty, but we will look at it for you. What your describing sounds like a 01 computer in a 00 car.

Dodge00Neon · Post by **Dodge00Neon** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:39 pm

GaryHowell wrote:
Dodge00Neon wrote:
Louie wrote:send it to howell. someone else had this problem. 99.9% says its just a bad ecu. like a bad core from a junkyard or something that someone sent it.

mine worked beautifully.
I was thinking about looking into that but not sure if they would have a problem with me buying the computer second hand. Like I said i didn't buy it new I got it from the for sale board.
It will not be covered under warranty, but we will look at it for you. What your describing sounds like a 01 computer in a 00 car.

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IF thats the truth i'm pissed. I bought a computer from a guy claiming it's a 2k that owns a 2k. Then sent it to howell. now i have a problem and it sounds as if i have a 2k1. Thats bull

Kernel Panic · Post by **Kernel Panic** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:54 pm

Dodge00Neon wrote:
GaryHowell wrote:
Dodge00Neon wrote: I was thinking about looking into that but not sure if they would have a problem with me buying the computer second hand. Like I said i didn't buy it new I got it from the for sale board.
It will not be covered under warranty, but we will look at it for you. What your describing sounds like a 01 computer in a 00 car.
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IF thats the truth i'm pissed. I bought a computer from a guy claiming it's a 2k that owns a 2k. Then sent it to howell. now i have a problem and it sounds as if i have a 2k1. Thats bull

He could in fact had a late 2000. Case in point I have a 2k1(prod 10/00), and when Lorenzo can out with his TB's they were for 2001+ Neons with an ATX (MTX Neons were a non-issue) due to a difference with the TV cable bracket. Guess what... I had a 2000 TB on my 2001. His car could have been made during a production change. Wouldn't be the first time it happened, thats why they put production dates on the data plate/sticker. When I worked a parts counter at a dealership it was routine to ask the production date just in case that came up in the parts fiche (this was back in the early 80's).

PBz · Post by **PBz** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:43 pm

Howell does not have to flash the vin, all that has to be done with the DRB III is flash in the skim code and it burns all the info for the sentry key to work!

Takes all of what DVG? 2 minutes tops!

Dodge00Neon · Post by **Dodge00Neon** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:09 am

ok lets say in fact that it is a 2k1. (still irritates me, possible late build on his car). I havn't had a chance to confirm if it is or not, I've been busy. Anyways whats the diffrence besides the IAC sensor? When it was installed in my car everything seemed to run great besides idle. IS it possible to just swap IAC sensors and connectors? Whats the diffrence betwenn the IAC sensor for both years besides the connector and the look of the sensor?

GaryHowell · Post by **GaryHowell** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:34 pm

Dodge00Neon wrote:ok lets say in fact that it is a 2k1. (still irritates me, possible late build on his car). I havn't had a chance to confirm if it is or not, I've been busy. Anyways whats the diffrence besides the IAC sensor? When it was installed in my car everything seemed to run great besides idle. IS it possible to just swap IAC sensors and connectors? Whats the diffrence betwenn the IAC sensor for both years besides the connector and the look of the sensor?

No the wires are not there. One is a 4 wire, the other is a 3 wire.

01RTNeon · Post by **01RTNeon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:32 pm

Your car would be a lot more screwed up if it was a 2k1 pcm. It might not even run. Its probably a 2k pcm and the pcm is forked and now you're screwed cause howell won't fix it. Sweet isn't it. You'd think that when you sent it in they would have noticed it. Another reason not to get an afx pcm, the "mystery" codes that everyone has pop up.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:18 pm

i had an afx race ecu..

never had any "mystery" codes. worked great. .

and i really...really regret the day i sold it

GaryHowell · Post by **GaryHowell** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:13 pm

01RTNeon wrote:Your car would be a lot more screwed up if it was a 2k1 pcm. It might not even run.

The will run but they hunt for idle because of the different IAC.

01RTNeon wrote: Its probably a 2k pcm and the pcm is forked and now you're screwed cause howell won't fix it.

Did you read his post he bought a used computer from some guy.

Dodge00Neon wrote:WEll i got a used 2k race off the for sale section

He never bought a computer from us, if he did then it is covered under warranty. We don't warranty used parts.

01RTNeon wrote: Sweet isn't it. You'd think that when you sent it in they would have noticed it.

Noticed what? All we did was change the serial number as ask. We have guys running around with 04 SRT stuff in 2K chassis. Putting a VIN in a computer for a different year is very common, because hot rodders swap parts.

01RTNeon wrote: Another reason not to get an afx pcm, the "mystery" codes that everyone has pop up.

There are no "mystery" codes. If you get a code, the computer has sensed a problem.

01RTNeon · Post by **01RTNeon** » Sun May 01, 2005 8:51 pm

So when they put the afx pcm in and it pops codes, switch back to stock, and they're gone, its the cars fault, and not the pcms?

GaryHowell · Post by **GaryHowell** » Sun May 01, 2005 9:26 pm

01RTNeon wrote:So when they put the afx pcm in and it pops codes, switch back to stock, and they're gone, its the cars fault, and not the pcms?

Your talking about something completely different. If that happend, it could be a combination of things. Anything from a bad PCM, which would be covered by warranty if it was new from us. Some one got one for the wrong year car. Someone bent a pin when installing it. You check the things that are easiest to check first, check the sensor the code is thrown for, look for a bent pin from install, make sure they year is correct. If all that checks out, and you bought it new, then send it back to us and we will check it out, and replace or repair as nessisary. I