Finely got pulled over...

crowd00control · Post by **crowd00control** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:09 am

Yeah, driving around without my bumper covers... An officer pulled me over asking me how long I was planning on driving around with no bumpers... I told him my car was recently in an accident and they are in the process of being fixed.

After a good five minutes and another officer coming and going, he came back to my car and showed me a 'villiage ordinance' saying something about it being illegal and an arrestable offense. He let me go with just a warning (obstructed rear license plate) and told me I should probably stop driving my car until it gets fixed or someone else might pull me over and arrest me.

The only reason I've been driving with no covers was because I read this http://law.onecle.com/illinois/625ilcs5/1-106.5.html. I guess villiage ordinances > state laws.

Guess my bumpers need to be fixed quick.

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:16 am

Meh, keep driving without them. Print off a copy of that, throw it in your car, and if you get more shit, show them that you have a "bumper" on your car. It's just not pretty.

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:19 am

i dont quite see how that code helps you.

but village ordinances do override state laws if the village ordinace is more strict, i believe.

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:28 am

Illinois State Law wrote:Bumper. Any device or system of devices protruding from and attached to the front and rear of a motor vehicle that has been designed to be used to absorb the impact of a collision. For the purposes of this Code, a bumper also includes a device or system of devices similar in design to those with which new motor vehicles are equipped.

Right above the intercooler, there's a bumper

The license plate is wire-tired to the bumper.

I dunno what over-rules what, but you most defentally do have bumpers on the car.

hansken_yo · Post by **hansken_yo** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:32 am

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:39 am

got it now, that makes sense

might be different state to state, but it might not hurt to ask silver-es about what overrides what.

702Neon · Post by **702Neon** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:17 pm

^^^^ yeah, those are bumpers, all he's missing is bumper covers.
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TNK · Post by **TNK** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:46 pm

agreed. he does have bumpers.

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:57 pm

the parts the cop was talking about offer little to no actual structural support to the car .. they are there just to finish off the front and rear .. but something in this case it would prob end up in front of a judge .. to 'define' exactly what they ment in the law when they said bumper ...

crowd00control · Post by **crowd00control** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:00 pm

besides... it's not my fault they aligned the holes where if I put a zip-tie from one to the other it would obstruct the view of something. They should have designed a license plate where zip-ties would work.

better yet. I think i'll take the zip-ties off and do duct tape stickies on the back of the plate.

lawhon · Post by **lawhon** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:37 pm

you could fight it in court, if your readint the law right, but it seems like an average person don't stand up in court when it comes to laws. It might take you going to jail for you to prove your point?

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:09 pm

lawhon wrote:you could fight it in court, if your readint the law right, but it seems like an average person don't stand up in court when it comes to laws. It might take you going to jail for you to prove your point?

All he was issued was a warning though. At this point he has nothing to fight, but yeah... If they stop you again, kindly (or rudely) educate them as to what a bumper is and show them.

04NeonsX · Post by **04NeonsX** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:37 am

well either way from what i understand it came from the factory with bumper covers and technically all they would really have to say is that it was a modification to the car that isnt oem and they would probably get away with that in court.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:45 am

Tenth Amendment of the US Constitution wrote:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

...and so on down... constitutional, so yeah, the villiage (or city, township, county) can have its own laws, but honestly doesnt need to considering the state and US gov. already has them

As for the cop saying get bumpers on there or else the next time you will get arrested, I would just know your facts and the next time/if when you get pulled over be like, there are bumpers on it, the things missing are the bumper covers, they are not a structural item, they just finish off the lines and make it look pretty. If they threaten to arrest you remind them that if they do so, they waste your time, his time, the villiage/cities/towns time and then a judges time and all the taxpayers money - so is it really worth it to him to harass you and throw you in jail for nothing for him to try and make some point, which he is wrong about anyway?

LaidNeon · Post by **LaidNeon** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:23 am

702Neon wrote:^^^^ yeah, those are bumpers, all he's missing is bumper covers.

thats so ghey, they are just "Covers" why does it matter??? I rocked the no front bumper look for like 2 weeks. No cops gave me trouble. Oh & i have rocked no hood & the OG no windshield, but i did wear safety glasses

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:26 am

^i got bitched at within the first 5 minutes for not having a hood on my car one time. we were doing soemthign VERY stupid to my hood and got hungry, so we left eh hood at the shop and went to BK, got bitched at in the parking lot by a cop.

hansken_yo · Post by **hansken_yo** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:18 am

not to get too far off topic here but you don't need a hood... do you?

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:20 am

You'd have to check state law on that one.

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:21 am

the cop was a fool... like every one said, you have bumpers, just not coverse. that can't be illegal and what i would of done is put a complaint on the officer. he needs to be educated and let known that people are not gonna put up with his bullshit. "you could get arrested" my ass

702Neon · Post by **702Neon** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:27 pm

CrucialNeon wrote:
702Neon wrote:^^^^ yeah, those are bumpers, all he's missing is bumper covers.
thats so ghey, they are just "Covers" why does it matter??? I rocked the no front bumper look for like 2 weeks. No cops gave me trouble. Oh & i have rocked no hood & the OG no windshield, but i did wear safety glasses

its just in some citys cops have better things to do than worry about looks of cars in the city.
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Bebo · Post by **Bebo** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:47 pm

kc2002acr wrote:
Tenth Amendment of the US Constitution wrote:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
If they threaten to arrest you remind them that if they do so, they waste your time, his time, the villiage/cities/towns time and then a judges time and all the taxpayers money - so is it really worth it to him to harass you and throw you in jail for nothing for him to try and make some point, which he is wrong about anyway?

^^^^^then they beat the $#!t out of you, suddenly find that bag of coke they dropped under your seat, & throw your @$$ in jail. Then you'll likely get all of the charges dropped & they'll get a good laugh.

SILVER-ES · Post by **SILVER-ES** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:51 pm

Yeah, because all cops are crooked cops!

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:47 am

SILVER-ES wrote:Yeah, because all cops are crooked cops!

YOU ADMITTED TO IT, YOU CROOKED BASTARD!

SILVER-ES · Post by **SILVER-ES** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:49 am

Damnit, you caught me. I've secretly been compiling a list of all the illegal crap you bastards do and fowarding it to your local PD's!

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:50 am

SILVER-ES wrote:Damnit, you caught me. I've secretly been compiling a list of all the illegal crap you bastards do and fowarding it to your local PD's!

Luckily our cops can't read.

702Neon · Post by **702Neon** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:58 am

03sxt wrote:
SILVER-ES wrote:Damnit, you caught me. I've secretly been compiling a list of all the illegal crap you bastards do and fowarding it to your local PD's!

Luckily our cops can't read.

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SILVER-ES · Post by **SILVER-ES** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:59 am

03sxt wrote:
SILVER-ES wrote:Damnit, you caught me. I've secretly been compiling a list of all the illegal crap you bastards do and fowarding it to your local PD's!

Luckily our cops can't read.

*adds to list* Mike verbally assaults local PD

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:14 am

SILVER-ES wrote:
03sxt wrote:
SILVER-ES wrote:Damnit, you caught me. I've secretly been compiling a list of all the illegal crap you bastards do and fowarding it to your local PD's!

Luckily our cops can't read.
*adds to list* Mike verbally assaults local PD

That didn't look very verbal.

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:19 am

SILVER-ES wrote:
03sxt wrote:
SILVER-ES wrote:Damnit, you caught me. I've secretly been compiling a list of all the illegal crap you bastards do and fowarding it to your local PD's!

Luckily our cops can't read.
*adds to list* Mike verbally assaults local PD

Naw, I don't really have anything bad to say about the Conneaut Police Department. I've worked with the guys quite a bit being in the Fire Department and we have a pretty decent group. I'm actually thinking about applying...

OverDrive418 · Post by **OverDrive418** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:08 pm

Obviously there's not enough rape and murder going on in the world because cops are so bored now the have to harass car guys with some outrageous outdated local customs bullsh!t. Please go find some missing children for Christ's sake!