Installing SRT springs..

Lookalike · Post by **Lookalike** » Sun May 06, 2007 1:09 pm

I browsed the first few pages, and didn't find my specific answer so...
I have a set of stock SRT-4 springs that I want to put on my 05 SXT to drop it just a hair. My SXT is stock suspension, and I just want to know what all will need to be done if I swap springs to the SRT-4 ones. I know I will need to have my car re-aligned, but is it pretty much swap and go, or are there other parts/adjustments that I will need/need to make. I want to know what kind of undertaking I will be getting myself into. Thanks!

underway · Post by **underway** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:47 pm

need a spring tensioner.... it coils the spring down so the spring dosent go flying off when u unbolt the top of the strut...most any automotive place will let u buy it ...use it ...and return it when ur done....... or if ur lil cocky just unbolt it and then start jackin the car up and hopefully u dont die... i reccomend the tensioner tho

Post by **racer12306** » Sun May 06, 2007 7:40 pm

^^^thats probably about it

from what i have read its a straight forward swap.

sneakers O'toole · Post by **sneakers O'toole** » Sun May 06, 2007 11:29 pm

yup, direct swap. probably won't need to compress the rear springs to put 'em on. might not need an alignment either. I didn't, but maybe I just got lucky idk.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:36 am

When removing the struts, its always a good idea to have the car's alignment checked out! Dont go cheap and blow it off.
The SRT setup on the other hand is a direct bolt in swap...

Lookalike · Post by **Lookalike** » Mon May 07, 2007 8:12 am

BlackRoseRacing wrote:When removing the struts, its always a good idea to have the car's alignment checked out! Dont go cheap and blow it off.
The SRT setup on the other hand is a direct bolt in swap...

Are you talking about the Struts, or just the springs? Because I'm staying with my stock struts and stuff, just putting in SRT springs.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon May 07, 2007 8:15 am

but they have to be removed to replace the springs.

underway · Post by **underway** » Mon May 07, 2007 9:13 am

when he says srt4 swap he means if u have the spring and strut still together from an srt4 then u can just pop it in a regular neon without a compressor.... or thats wat i think he meant..

sneakers O'toole · Post by **sneakers O'toole** » Mon May 07, 2007 10:41 am

BlackRoseRacing wrote:When removing the struts, its always a good idea to have the car's alignment checked out! Dont go cheap and blow it off.
The SRT setup on the other hand is a direct bolt in swap...

sorry I should've added I went for an alignment, but everything was good. but like I said I think I just got lucky.

Lookalike · Post by **Lookalike** » Mon May 07, 2007 8:10 pm

Yeah I'm talking about sticking with my stock struts, just replacing my stock springs with the SRT springs. So other than getting a spring tensioner I just replace my stock springs with the SRT ones, reassemble, get re-aligned and that's it?

underway · Post by **underway** » Mon May 07, 2007 8:13 pm

thats it... im also doin srt4 springs on my kyb struts tomarrow.... ill let you know if anything else is needed

ewetho · Post by **ewetho** » Mon May 07, 2007 9:24 pm

When you drop the car with shorter springs that changes SAI and Caster angles and resulting camber angles. The IA should be the same. But this will all change toe. As we normally measure this in 0.01 of a degree you probably want to get this looked at. With a drop I would also recommend opening up toe a bit toward 0 toe. Camber should be fine on a mild drop so would not worry about camber bolts.

Should just need a rear and front toe and go.

Have fun.

Demonik · Post by **Demonik** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:45 am

ewetho wrote:When you drop the car with shorter springs that changes SAI and Caster angles and resulting camber angles. The IA should be the same. But this will all change toe. As we normally measure this in 0.01 of a degree you probably want to get this looked at. With a drop I would also recommend opening up toe a bit toward 0 toe. Camber should be fine on a mild drop so would not worry about camber bolts.

Should just need a rear and front toe and go.

Have fun.

so im rusty with alignment vocab, and im doing the srt springs with stock/upgraded struts in the future, so an alignment at a shop should be able to do all that right?

ewetho · Post by **ewetho** » Tue May 08, 2007 10:25 pm

If that is all you are doing just have them check to make sure everything is even side to side (so nothing is bent) and then toe and go both ends of the car. Camber change should not be dramatic enough of a change to worry about.

No biggie.

Alignment VOCAB----
First to are actually the sam angle just measured from the front or side. So dray a line down the center of the upper strut mount bearing (Center of the strut rod is close for visualization) to the center of the lower ball joint. This is the two pivot point for your front steering.
SAI -- is steering axis inclination which is that angle viewed front he front of the car.
CASTER -- is the angle viewed from the side.
CAMBER -- is the inward or outward lean of the tire viewed from the front.
IA -- is included angle which is the total of SAI and CAMBER.
TOE -- is the front of the tires being closer or farther apart than the trailing edge of the tire as viewed from above.

If your alignment is out side to side then look further into SAI and IA
If SAI is out side to side the chassis or control arm is bent on the offending side.
If SAI is the same on both sides but IA is wacky then you have a strut or knuckle that is bent.

Hope that helps.

underway · Post by **underway** » Wed May 09, 2007 10:51 am

did my srt4 springs yesterday ...took lil over 2 hours...didnt have to compress any of them to get them off.....just un bolted it and letm jump off.... only jump like 6 inches .... i HAD...eibachs on there so dont assume your stock springs wont be a bomb if u just unbolt them uncompressed..... puttin the srt4 springs in i had to compress only the fronts.... pretty far down ... the backs i just put my weight into them and put the bolt on.... pretty basic install

wernbfe · Post by **wernbfe** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:32 pm

one question? When replacing these springs do you need to replace the endlinks for your swaybar with shorter ones if the new springs lower the car down?

Curious that all.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:41 am

I have read yes.

ewetho · Post by **ewetho** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:19 pm

You should shorten the to keep the rear sway bar parallel to the ground. A good starting point is 2/3 of the drop. So is you drop 1.5" then get 1" shorter links.

Post by **jonnymopar** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:29 am

How much of a drop do the SRT-4 springs give you on stock struts?

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:39 am

i believe i have read ~.5", not much

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:22 pm

juss wondering with the .5" drop from the stock struts and srt springs is thee any handling benefits to it? might be doing this or just goin with a full swap not sure yet

bigbird · Post by **bigbird** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:37 pm

w0158981 wrote:juss wondering with the .5" drop from the stock struts and srt springs is thee any handling benefits to it? might be doing this or just goin with a full swap not sure yet

There are handling benefits from these springs on stock struts, however it is mostly from the increased spring rates, not the small drop!

daaboots · Post by **daaboots** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:56 pm

jonnymopar wrote:How much of a drop do the SRT-4 springs give you on stock struts?

you get about .5 front and about 1" rear

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:27 pm

sounds perfect to me...and I think my neighbor might have a set

If I get them I will put them on stock struts and not change the end links until I get bigger sways (eibach or hotchkis)

edit...these are only 15.99 so it is a lot cheaper than a broken sway bar...but a broken sway is a good excuse to upgrade...hmmmm

http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 867583a9bc

b1llyw · Post by **b1llyw** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:34 pm

Springs sound easy. Are the SRT-4 stock springs also a direct-bolt in?

Post by **Diablo0** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:38 pm

Yes, the stock SRT springs will work with Neon struts.

b1llyw · Post by **b1llyw** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:50 pm

Lol, I meant are the stock SRt-4 struts also a bolt-in.

Pizza Boy · Post by **Pizza Boy** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:25 pm

Lookalike wrote:I browsed the first few pages, and didn't find my specific answer so...
I have a set of stock SRT-4 springs that I want to put on my 05 SXT to drop it just a hair. My SXT is stock suspension, and I just want to know what all will need to be done if I swap springs to the SRT-4 ones. I know I will need to have my car re-aligned, but is it pretty much swap and go, or are there other parts/adjustments that I will need/need to make. I want to know what kind of undertaking I will be getting myself into. Thanks!

how much did you pay for your stock srt-4 springs, i have an extra set laying around with only 100 or so miles on them....still look brand new...-Eric

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:25 pm

b1llyw wrote:Lol, I meant are the stock SRt-4 struts also a bolt-in.

Yes, to the best of my knowledge they are, but the spring perches are higher...so unless you get SRT lowering springs, you will be raising your car about 1/2 inch or so (with stock srt4 springs and struts)

This is all based off what I have read in this forum. I have no first hand knowledge. I do however have a set of srt4 springs that the neighbor dropped off, got to do a little research and see what a "fair price" is. I am thinking 75-100...but I am going to see what they are going for on the for sale forums, and go off that.

b1llyw · Post by **b1llyw** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:53 pm

Thanks.

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