Pacesetter Cat-back...Opinions Please.

05srt4clone · Post by **05srt4clone** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:07 am

Ok me and Gary were talking yesterday. I am looking for something cheap but good for power. Gary came up with Pacesetter as an idea. I said sure, haven't heard anything bad about them. The only thing I dislike is the yellow in the tips. But you never know I might grow on it.

What I am looking for is pics and sound clips and opinions.

Thanks.
Ryan.

solodogg · Post by **solodogg** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:24 am

hope you live in a state that is sunny year round, never rains nor snows...otherwise the whole damn system will fall off within a couple of years. please research a bit more, and get a good catback if you plan on upgrading...even though, just as i stated in another post you will get very minimal power gains from anything you do on an '05. That is of course, unless you are the magical one that figures out how to overcome the effects of the NGC ecu.

xenonneon · Post by **xenonneon** » Tue May 03, 2005 9:26 am

I have heard bad things about the pacesetters rusting and stuff. Personally I had a pacesetter header on my old car and after about 3 months it just straight snaped

. I currently have a Thermal R&D exhaust and it is awesome. I have had it for about a year now with no problems. You can check it out at modern.

GaryHowell · Post by **GaryHowell** » Tue May 03, 2005 9:30 am

05srt4clone wrote:Ok me and Gary were talking yesterday. I am looking for something cheap but good for power. Gary came up with Pacesetter as an idea. I said sure, haven't heard anything bad about them. The only thing I dislike is the yellow in the tips. But you never know I might grow on it.

What I am looking for is pics and sound clips and opinions.

Thanks.
Ryan.

The Pacesetter is a decent peice for the money. Rust was a bad issue before they switched over to an aluminized piping since that we have had few complaints.

xenonneon wrote:I have heard bad things about the pacesetters rusting and stuff. Personally I had a pacesetter header on my old car and after about 3 months it just straight snaped . I currently have a Thermal R&D exhaust and it is awesome. I have had it for about a year now with no problems. You can check it out at modern.

Thermal is good stuff. If that Pacesetter broke it should be covered under warranty as long as you didn't modify it.

solodogg · Post by **solodogg** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:45 am

what about the muffler? it's still not aluminized

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:29 pm

solodogg wrote:what about the muffler? it's still not aluminized

Wow, that's good to know, I might need to look into a pair of reading glasses.

http://pacesetterexhaust.com/monza.htm

GaryHowell · Post by **GaryHowell** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:39 pm

ram50rocket wrote:
solodogg wrote:what about the muffler? it's still not aluminized
Wow, that's good to know, I might need to look into a pair of reading glasses.

http://pacesetterexhaust.com/monza.htm

LOL

solodogg · Post by **solodogg** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:48 pm

ram50rocket wrote:
solodogg wrote:what about the muffler? it's still not aluminized
Wow, that's good to know, I might need to look into a pair of reading glasses.

http://pacesetterexhaust.com/monza.htm

so where on there do you see specific aluminized muffler? i very clearly see where it says aluminized piping...and if their new mufflers are aluminized...someone needs to replace a friend of mine's, since his cat back held up just peachy...but the muffler fell apart within a year.

jelloman457 · Post by **jelloman457** » Tue May 03, 2005 5:51 pm

It says on the website that it is aluminized. Just my $.02.

Edgel · Post by **Edgel** » Tue May 03, 2005 6:00 pm

i know some people that have the pacesetter on there cars and seem to really like the sound quality of it, and they enjoy the performance of it to. Not a bad deal for the price if you ask me.

evlneon · Post by **evlneon** » Tue May 03, 2005 9:55 pm

take this experience into consideration: i helped a friend of mine install (well, more like he installed it and i was there watching

) the pacesetter cat-back, and while the finish on the system looks decent enough, it's not. the paint (YES, PAINT) was so thick on most of the pieces, that they didn't fit together properly without having to do some extreme sanding, not to mention the fact that there's like 50 million parts to the thing (well not really, but there was a lot). also, they don't even weld the tips onto the muffler, so have fun with messing around to get those perfectly, evenly lined up! after an hour of fudging with it, i had to leave for work so he finished it himself (he's an experienced army mechanic and really didn't even need me there in the first place

).

i met up with him at my house after i finished at work, then we drove in his car over to the other side of town to go to a bar. as we were leaving the bar, getting onto the highway, the exhuast tone seemed to get a little louder. we shrugged it off and kept going until we heard something hit the ground and scraping behind the car. quickly pulled over ran around back and found the muffler was dragging on the ground behind the car, since the muffler itself is only held up by one exhaust hanger and the hope that the inlet pipe will keep the other end up. well sure enough the inlet pipe had come loose and cause the muffler to fall. this also caused one of the tips to go flying off which i found about 100 yards back sitting in the middle of the highway.

to sum it up. the fit is horrible, and the multi-piece (5 or 6, can't really remember) setup is complete crap. the ~$240 it costs is not worth it AT ALL. spend the extra dough and get a thermal cat-back or borla, or spend the same money as the pacesetter and get just a quality axle-back muffler like the vibrant.

weber · Post by **weber** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:55 pm

evlneon wrote:
to sum it up. the fit is horrible, and the multi-piece (5 or 6, can't really remember) setup is complete crap. the ~$240 it costs is not worth it AT ALL. spend the extra dough and get a thermal cat-back or borla, or spend the same money as the pacesetter and get just a quality axle-back muffler like the vibrant.

I really like my vibrant. I just got a header / downpipe, and threw the vibrant on. Sounds great and fits very well. Some people say its ugly the way the drivers side pipe comes outa the muffler, but most people tell me its clean as hell. IDK, personal preference, but i like it.

sxt · Post by **sxt** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:32 am

I haven't heard good things about Pacesetter. Everyone I have ever talked to that had Pacesetter exhaust said it rust real bad and fell apart.

DodgeGirl · Post by **DodgeGirl** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:53 pm

Yes, I have personally had this exhaust on about 12-15 different neons (in MICHIGAN, where I drove them through the winter

) And I have never had a problem. No rust, no falling apart, nothing.

I guess I must have just "coincedentally" gotten the 12 or 15 "good" ones, out of the how many THOUSAND they ship out?

Casketbearer · Post by **Casketbearer** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:15 pm

I had a pacesetter on my mgb back in the day. Never fell apart, sounded good... BUT the heat resistant paint flaked off, and it looked like it was bent and welded by retarded chimpanzees. The aluminized thing should solve the rust i encountered, and it gives a good exhaust sound for the price.

05srt4clone · Post by **05srt4clone** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:23 pm

It doesn't ricey does?
I want something deep and that sounds not overly loud.

Frizbe · Post by **Frizbe** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:39 pm

if your looking for something not ricey, I love the sound of my SRT exaust, pkus it looks killer. and with your rear bumber it would fill those cut outs nicely

sxt · Post by **sxt** » Wed May 04, 2005 11:31 pm

Casketbearer wrote:I had a pacesetter on my mgb back in the day. Never fell apart, sounded good... BUT the heat resistant paint flaked off, and it looked like it was bent and welded by retarded chimpanzees. The aluminized thing should solve the rust i encountered, and it gives a good exhaust sound for the price.

Yeah, that paint usually comes off the first time you drive the car after installing it.

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