Cat-delete and SAFC wiring?

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Cat-delete and SAFC wiring?

Post by ChrisRT » Wed May 30, 2007 12:23 pm

I've got two questions...

#1) I remember a while ago you could buy a cat-delete pipe on Ebay for our cars, and someone used a plug fouler or something to defeat the CEL, did it ever work properly?

#2) I want to wire up an SAFC in my car, I've got a spare SAFC laying around and i just wanna throw it in the car. Anyone got a wiring diagram for a 2001 R/T to wire that thing in?
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Re: Cat-delete and SAFC wiring?

Post by OverDrive418 » Wed May 30, 2007 12:49 pm

ChrisRT wrote:
#1) I remember a while ago you could buy a cat-delete pipe...and someone used a plug fouler or something to defeat the CEL, did it ever work properly?
:withstupid: Good question, me also wants to know!
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Post by kevo » Wed May 30, 2007 5:56 pm

this is the best solution to your no cat issue.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthre ... =123634664

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Post by OverDrive418 » Wed May 30, 2007 6:39 pm

Awesome write-up. So will this work on any car?
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Horsepower is how fast you're going when you hit the wall, and torque is how far you drag the wall with you.

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Post by Ballsdeep1 » Wed May 30, 2007 7:00 pm

I was able to do what they did, but I didn't need to drill. The o2 fit fine in one of the non-foulers and I was on my way, no codes for the last 2 months. My buddies civic I had to drill it out to make it fit, but not on the neon.
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Post by dblsg » Wed May 30, 2007 7:36 pm

interesting...
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Post by gilly02le » Wed May 30, 2007 8:30 pm

i have my lower sensor in my downpipe before my cat.. and i used those non-foulers and ive been 3 months without a CEL.. i'd say it works..i can take some pics if anyone wants to see how ive got it setup
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Post by OverDrive418 » Wed May 30, 2007 9:49 pm

Ballsdeep1 wrote:I was able to do what they did, but I didn't need to drill. The o2 fit fine in one of the non-foulers and I was on my way, no codes for the last 2 months. My buddies civic I had to drill it out to make it fit, but not on the neon.
Reason I asked is for my Civic. It is the only code that keeps popping up and I want to get it done "right". What did you have to drill out? You mean use 2 plugs, one drilled and one not like in the write-up, for the Civic?
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Post by Ballsdeep1 » Thu May 31, 2007 12:49 am

Yeah, for the civic I did, for the SRT I was able to just use 1 non-fouler un modified.
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Post by ChrisRT » Thu May 31, 2007 8:03 am

kevo wrote:this is the best solution to your no cat issue.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthre ... =123634664
Sweet! Thanks!

Anyone know how to wire up the SAFC?
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Post by Ballsdeep1 » Thu May 31, 2007 9:03 am

you just need the wiring diagram for the ecu and the one for the safc. The safc ones are probably on Apexi's website, and the neon ones are probably on the internet if you look around, I think there is even a website that has a whole bunch of service manuals. Other than that, you are just going to be tapping/splicing wires, so how to install it isn't that bad, it's which wires. I know the srt-4's need a tach output signal, and since we don't have one, gotta buy one. I wouldn't be suprised if you needed one too.
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Post by ChrisRT » Thu May 31, 2007 9:07 am

Ballsdeep1 wrote:you just need the wiring diagram for the ecu and the one for the safc. The safc ones are probably on Apexi's website, and the neon ones are probably on the internet if you look around, I think there is even a website that has a whole bunch of service manuals. Other than that, you are just going to be tapping/splicing wires, so how to install it isn't that bad, it's which wires. I know the srt-4's need a tach output signal, and since we don't have one, gotta buy one. I wouldn't be suprised if you needed one too.
Thanks for that.

Usually, someone has already done it on the car in question and has a diagram/how-to on it. Since I can't find one, I thought I'd post hte question.

I can find one for the 95-99 Neon pretty easy, however, finding a wiring diagram for the 2k1 R/T isn't that easy.
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Post by kc2005ptgt » Thu May 31, 2007 12:51 pm

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=14972

Stickied at the top of the TUning/Megasquirt Forum, which is what you are doing, Tuning... a QUICK search would have yeilded results. :lol: I also know you said RT, but all neon wiring is same.

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Post by ChrisRT » Thu May 31, 2007 1:27 pm

I searched the other day for tuning and didn't find what I was looking for, searched today for SAFC and found it ;)
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:36 am

SAFC wiring in the link posted above....
Also note, im installing the SAFC myself too, there is one major notation all over the internet though. DO NOT hook up the wire to the O2 sensor, the apex unit screws up the readings to the pcm by taping into that, especially if you already have an A/F gauge installed. Wether or not its true, its highly recomended all over the net that we dont use that wire(I've been reading about it for the past 4 days)
Check into the link about the wiring posted above, im going to post findings in that topic :)

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Post by ChrisRT » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:31 am

Cool! Thanks man!

Additionally, can you still order Mopar Parts? I'm looking for a few things for my Dakota. :)
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