yellowpatrol's SRT-4 to SRT-4 swap : Twin pics

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:32 am

This is where you sue them and demand your money back.

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:36 am

Really? You guys think I shouldn't just try to fix it up? It was only $1,600, do you think I could get one in perfect condition for that?

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:18 am

usually good shape long blocks go between $1000 and $1500....i would suggest getting one of srtforums thought because then if you get screwed you'll know exactly who it was and where to go

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:27 pm

Okay, so I'm having trouble getting the exhaust manifold off. I have a Haynes manual, but only for the Neon, and even that isn't descriptive with bolt locations. There is one bolt left that I can see holding it on, it is the second from the left on the bottom when looking at it from the exhaust side. I just can't get to it. It's probably something stupid, but can anyone help?

JRM · Post by **JRM** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:37 pm

yellowpatrol wrote:Really? You guys think I shouldn't just try to fix it up? It was only $1,600, do you think I could get one in perfect condition for that?

I paid like $2700 for the entire donor car...

atom · Post by **atom** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:34 pm

Dude, no way! File a claim. They never mentioned that the impact happened to be when they hit the bottom of that lake. That thing wont run all corroded like that. Boring out the pistons is common, now try boring out your valves and everything else, BLEGH. any ways good luck and I give you a thumbs up for ambition, I am rooting for you.

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:07 pm

Okay, well I'm not hell bent on making this one work, I just want an SRT-4 motor in my car. If you guys think I have a good chance with getting my money back on it then I might just try that, but first I'd like to take a look under the valve cover and see just what the extent of the damage is. It's stripped though :-\

So how would you go about filing a "claim"?

KrackstaR · Post by **KrackstaR** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:39 pm

dude i say get your money bak cause i know your not looking forward to putting out the money that is needed to make this work.

on the other hand if you really want to make it work i say take it to a shop and have them do a once over the motor to see if your going to have problems cause the motor might was pulled out of the car and they just sat it outside for a while and the condensation got to it.

i wish you luck what eva you decide to do.

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:45 pm

worst case scenario you can deck the block and get a new undamaged complete head for like $200-$500 depending on mileage and condition

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:27 am

Can you take it to Kevin's Machine Shop in Liberty (off of Leonard and Mill St in downtown) - they can look it over for you!

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:13 am

I was thinking about them, I drive past them every day to and from my house. Yesterday they had a bunch of blocks sitting in the gravel outside their place.

magnus · Post by **magnus** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:44 pm

The motor looks a lot cleaner and in better shape when presented within the Ebay bid. I would try to get your money back and continue searching for a new motor.

Trust me, you don't want to learn the hard way, and spend lots of money trying to make something work. It may be a really good learning experience though.

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:27 pm

More pictures.

The shiniest thing on the whole engine^^

Random parts bin^^

http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85 ... r%20hoist/

lvlistchif · Post by **lvlistchif** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:16 pm

1. if the motor was moving when it hit the water say goodbye to everything internal wise....

2. you should keep the tranny and sell the block, keep all the wiring etc... if you just sell the block with the turbo and everything attached you can prob get 700 cause no one wants a bare block with no turbo or anything... then go to srt forums and buy a block theres 2 on there right now 1 for 700$ and one for 500... bare blocks with the heads but no turbo i think

3. *ask more questions and for more pics when buying on ebay*

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:36 pm

Finally got the exhaust manifold off thanks to refect!

EvoNeon02 · Post by **EvoNeon02** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:04 pm

I had some1 on ebay sell me a bad motor for a WRX that i sold to one of my customers. I contact ebay and pay pal and filed a claim against them and showed proof that what they displayed on line was not what was sent to me. and i got my money back within 48hrs. I would seriously get your money back and do some junk yard diving.

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:32 pm

EvoNeon02 wrote:I had some1 on ebay sell me a bad motor for a WRX that i sold to one of my customers. I contact ebay and pay pal and filed a claim against them and showed proof that what they displayed on line was not what was sent to me. and i got my money back within 48hrs. I would seriously get your money back and do some junk yard diving.

Did you have to give the motor back though? It's not cheap to ship this thing around- it cost me $600 to get it here.

EvoNeon02 · Post by **EvoNeon02** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:51 pm

i work for a shipping company. if they are willing to give you your money back i will help you ship it to where ever it needs to go. it will be a whole lot less than $600.00.

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:15 am

Wow thank you for the offer! I will see what becomes of this and let you know if I need to ship it. Again, I still want to check out the extent of the damage before I decide one way or another.

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:52 pm

hurry cause paypal only gives you like 30 days to file a claim

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:13 pm

Got the valve cover off, and it doesn't look bad at all in there yet. It's like night and day on the inside and outside. I also got the transmission off, but I wasn't quite as pleased with the looks of it. There's quite a bit of rust and even some spiderwebs.

http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85 ... e%20cover/

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:51 pm

Yucky tranny!

Dude good luck with everything. I don't know what to say.... Personally if I was gonna spend $1600 on eBay I would ask a TON of questions. Might look good on the outside, but its whats on the inside that counts. It came from Florida, its so humid and wet out there, who knows how long that thing was sitting.

You will learn a TON from this expierence. Just take your time and do it right the first time.

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:00 pm

File a claim with e-bay, like now. If you paid with paypal, file a claim with them too. Let them know that no one ever told you that it was rusted to all hell. I'm not a car pro, but I know that that engine will never run again. And what do they mean it was modded a lot, but the stock turbo was put back on. How did they end up with the stock turbo? Seems like they are just a parts yard.....

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:42 pm

Yay! It's my lucky day, I mean they didn't even advertise that it came with FREE motor oil!

http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85 ... tor%20oil/

JRM · Post by **JRM** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:52 pm

Lucky bastard

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:49 pm

So how IS it looking thus far?! Any hopes of actually using it?

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:53 pm

Meh so far so good. I can only work on it in bursts so I haven't done much yet.

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:58 pm

The new photo gallery is now online and fully functional, I recommend checking that out instead of looking at the thumbnails in this topic.

http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85 ... RT%20SWAP/

Update:
So now I'm just having some trouble getting off the 4 bolts that hold the clutch on, not even the torque wrench could budge them.

rice_eater · Post by **rice_eater** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:07 pm

^^^ get a long breaker bar, they make some even longer than the big torque wrenches

you know, even if it was in the water or water, the engine and tranny had oil in them, which should still protect some areas for a while, so i bet it's not THAT bad... new pistons and rods are only 350 so that's not a killer expense.... i say keep it and just see if you can make it work... i bought my used tranny and axles and clutch for 750, so in the worst case, save the diff from the current tranny and sell it, and just buy another one...

with a little patience and some tlc you can bring it back... i dont know about these 1000 long blocks, i'd sure like to snap one up but they seem to only be available in people's stories....

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:38 pm

Okay, I'm borrowing one from my supervisor tomorrow.

I was going at it today with the ratchet and I got one of them off, but the hardest part of it is keeping the engine from turning. I followed part of a how-to on SRTforums.com but I can't see how they wedged that screwdriver up under the crankshaft.