Carbon By Design :Thumbs Down: Take A Look...

Ballsdeep1 · Post by **Ballsdeep1** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:42 pm

Might as well add some form a local site

LowNSlow wrote:Yep... again I have to laugh at the fact he made fun of your third brake light but probably spent near a grand in mad tight carbon fiber parts.

Then he can't even break out of the 14s in his SRT... I find that very humorous..

I didn't know 14.0 was slow for a stock srt-4 at 6000ft altitude, thanks for the info.

silversport · Post by **silversport** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:55 pm

03sxt wrote:After looking at all the pictures from various Carbon By Design customers, their products look quite inconsistent when it comes to quality. Some parts don't look too bad, while others look like they were manufactured by a 10 year old with safety scissors.

agreed! the man... ur looks 1000X better then the blue one!!! maybe ur just lucky u got a good piece but install has nothing to do with what i was talking about on srtforums. if u got his and he got urs maybe ud see how they are different and my bet is urs would fit like his if not worse! and u can put up 100 pics of good pieces but i bet i can find 1000 of bad ones that they produced. if u liker their product thats cool spend more money with them and thats thats but dont come over to this site and start flamin on the dude here to. get a life man!!! and go back to srtforums!

Ballsdeep1 · Post by **Ballsdeep1** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:31 pm

silversport wrote:
03sxt wrote:After looking at all the pictures from various Carbon By Design customers, their products look quite inconsistent when it comes to quality. Some parts don't look too bad, while others look like they were manufactured by a 10 year old with safety scissors.
agreed! the man... ur looks 1000X better then the blue one!!! maybe ur just lucky u got a good piece but install has nothing to do with what i was talking about on srtforums. if u got his and he got urs maybe ud see how they are different and my bet is urs would fit like his if not worse! and u can put up 100 pics of good pieces but i bet i can find 1000 of bad ones that they produced. if u liker their product thats cool spend more money with them and thats thats but dont come over to this site and start flamin on the dude here to. get a life man!!! and go back to srtforums!

Sorry, you're too late bud, I was here well before I knew anything about this thread, or the one on SRTforums. I've been attempting to help out your community with my knowledge through advice and HOW To's since I signed up. This is the thing about the way carbon fiber parts like the PVO spoiler are made, they are made form a mold, the mold doesn't change, to they will all fit the same, look the same and install the same. I can understand them fuggering the cut, although that can be adjusted with a little filing, but the fit will be the same on all of them. the spoiler is a little flexible and needs to be pushed on snug, and if the surfaces are prepped correctly, the 3m body moulding adhesive will not release like that. Personally I think there is a lot of installer error, but I wan't there, so I can't know for sure, but think about it, they are all made form a mold, shape will be consistant.

sxt4 · Post by **sxt4** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:21 pm

who cares about Canada anyways.

silversport · Post by **silversport** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:15 pm

Ballsdeep1 wrote:
silversport wrote:
03sxt wrote:After looking at all the pictures from various Carbon By Design customers, their products look quite inconsistent when it comes to quality. Some parts don't look too bad, while others look like they were manufactured by a 10 year old with safety scissors.
agreed! the man... ur looks 1000X better then the blue one!!! maybe ur just lucky u got a good piece but install has nothing to do with what i was talking about on srtforums. if u got his and he got urs maybe ud see how they are different and my bet is urs would fit like his if not worse! and u can put up 100 pics of good pieces but i bet i can find 1000 of bad ones that they produced. if u liker their product thats cool spend more money with them and thats thats but dont come over to this site and start flamin on the dude here to. get a life man!!! and go back to srtforums!

Sorry, you're too late bud, I was here well before I knew anything about this thread, or the one on SRTforums. I've been attempting to help out your community with my knowledge through advice and HOW To's since I signed up. This is the thing about the way carbon fiber parts like the PVO spoiler are made, they are made form a mold, the mold doesn't change, to they will all fit the same, look the same and install the same. I can understand them fuggering the cut, although that can be adjusted with a little filing, but the fit will be the same on all of them. the spoiler is a little flexible and needs to be pushed on snug, and if the surfaces are prepped correctly, the 3m body moulding adhesive will not release like that. Personally I think there is a lot of installer error, but I wan't there, so I can't know for sure, but think about it, they are all made form a mold, shape will be consistant.

first off im saying installation aside!!! im just talking about the cutting job and the bubbles. anyway im done with this thread! u have ur opinion and i have mine. the only thing that pisses me off is u flamin up the tread hating on someone u dont even know. u werent there for the intall so obviously u cant talk shit !!!

and who cares about Canada?

canada land area 9,970,610 (km2)
U.S. land area 9,629,091 (km2)

we r bigger

lol

Ballsdeep1 · Post by **Ballsdeep1** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:31 pm

Actually, if you compare the two, mine and the blue one, now that I'm looking closer to see what went wrong, it is blatantly obvious that he didn't push it on snug. Look at how mine lines up to the brake lights and the tops of the tail lights, then look at that one, there is almost a 1/4" of difference. I am willing o bet 2 things.

1) Installer didn't test fit and mark where it needed to line up

2) Installer pealed all the tape and then tried to install it causing it to not be able to be pushed on completely and snugly.

Post by **Canada** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:46 pm

You really don't listen do you??

I installed the spoiler. I did everything they told me to do, including ensuring the surfaces were warm, that the area was clean, and I used 3M prep wipes on the surface, peeled the tape back partially while installing directly where I test fitted, in between my wax crayon marks. When I test fitted it, it was close, but still off.

Once I got it on, I used clamps with microfibre rags to protect the surface to hold it down on both the vertical and horizontal surfaces of the lid.

I worked in a body shop for almost 2 years. I have installed every part on my car, INCLUDING my mopar lip kit which uses a very similar installation technique and it fits dead-on.

Its a matter of a quality product (Lip Kit) versus a poorer quality product (spoiler).

If you're just gonna sit there and flame away and not listen to others arguments, take a hike.

And for the record, if you had read all along, you would have kept this on-topic by discussing the unprofessionalism of CBD by publically trashing one of their vendors, and not kept ragging on the fact that you happened to get some of their very very few quality products.

Please discontinue posting in this thread, inless you have something intelligent to add, lest it get locked for your stupidity.

glasswars · Post by **glasswars** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:48 pm

My spoiler fits snug. And no ban on ballsdeep, he's funny.

bone-yard-racing · Post by **bone-yard-racing** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:51 pm

bad01neon wrote:one bright thing though.....now their prices will go down and those of us that can do a little body work to salvage their crap will save some money lol

My charger hood is gunna look good (Walks away mixing bondoglass)

In all seriousness I have friends who have bought from them and they are pretty happy.

Ballsdeep1 · Post by **Ballsdeep1** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:02 pm

I love this, you are the "Boobie Moderator" of your forum, I'm the "HOW TO" moderator of another, it makes a bit more sense now.

Since you want to keep this on topic to a post on another website, and not on topic to your thread hear bashing another company for probable user error, let's do it. What is wrong for a company who co-sponsors a website with another company to air it's dirty laundry. It's apparent by that thread CTA has some idiot customers/nutswingers. So said morons can't install their part, cry to CTA who wants to jump ship on their partnership with their vendor. It's a lot easier to pass the blame than tell some idiot to go screw himself. I completely understand CBD going on their saying the reason I'm not selling to CTA is because they suck as a dealer, and don't blame me for your screw ups. In the real world, the customer is rarely right, and customers need to exercise proper customer etiquette and personal responsibility. It's understandable though with the demographic they target to, a group of tweens that live with their parents and have little to no responsibility to anything. I'm in the auto customization business, my wife owns a shop, we run it, and guess what, we essentially pre-screen customer like that. If they look like a whiney little turd spending their wad on some work, I raise the price so high they will take their nit-picking bullshit to the guy down the street and I can reserve my services for people who will appreciate it, not try to find something to complain about because they think their world revolves around them because mommy and daddy still wipe their ass for them.

So hats off to CBD for not taking the sniveling little turds crap anymore. They are moving into a higher end line of cars it seems anyways, very smart move, always go for the quality, not the quantity.

bone-yard-racing wrote:
bad01neon wrote:one bright thing though.....now their prices will go down and those of us that can do a little body work to salvage their crap will save some money lol
My charger hood is gunna look good (Walks away mixing bondoglass) In all seriousness I have friends who have bought from them and they are pretty happy.

sounds like the fiberglass overhead console I'm making for my TT and EBC, hahaha, Bondoglass FTW

sxt4 · Post by **sxt4** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:05 pm

zerocoolok · Post by **zerocoolok** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:38 am

Id be willing to bet that ballsdeep is a vendor for or is sponsored by CBD.

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:48 am

Ballsdeep1 wrote:I love this, you are the "Boobie Moderator" of your forum, I'm the "HOW TO" moderator of another, it makes a bit more sense now.

That is just a user made title.

Alternately :

A joke.

Ballsdeep1 · Post by **Ballsdeep1** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:45 am

zerocoolok wrote:Id be willing to bet that ballsdeep is a vendor for or is sponsored by CBD.

Ballsdeep drinks 40's and sells t-shirts, I would never want to get into a low-end car-parts business. No money for the headache of dealing with idiots like 2/3rd of srtforums.

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:08 am

you might not like dealing with idiots....

but we don't like dealing with assholes and we don't like seeing alot of members gettin screwed....

i wonder if a car company had 5,000 cars out of 50,000 that were nothing but complete shit. I bet that car company wouldn't sell more than 5,000 cars....

It's plain common sense...But go ahead and support people who trash their vendors and continue to distribute shit out there....

and your thing about the mold thing....wow they must use ONLY 1 mold right? wrong ...they probably have dozens of molds...so every one is not gonna be consistant with one you bought years ago buddy...

take a hike

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:08 am

balls....EVEN IF he installed it incorrectly, AT LEAST one of those people who complained had to have read the directions and followed them correctly....and it still turned out like shit....and as for your "they all come from the same mold"....um, so your saying companies make b-grade products on purpose?? they have a seperate b-grade mold? molds are never 100% everytime and its CBD's job to sort out the products that dont pass standards.....i have seen many good products from CBD, however, i have never seen a company produce so many bad products and somehow still be make a profit.....

Bella Lugrossi · Post by **Bella Lugrossi** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:38 am

this is alot like howell. some people don't get screwed by them, and hey no harm no foul, but then you have folks like me who get completely ass-raped, but we are the bad guys. :shrugs: go figure.

60trim · Post by **60trim** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:50 am

hmmm....not sure what to do now.

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:15 am

ibtl

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:53 am

Someone needs to step up and provide GOOD quality parts, that actually ship on time, and don't screw others over.

Oh... wait... we don't live in a perfect world.

Forgot about that one.

KrackstaR · Post by **KrackstaR** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:55 am

I agree to a certian extent with ballsdeep cause i see it hands down people go to a shop and nitpick on petty stuff, thats why i work on people cars for free (like a hobby) and i wouldnt never want to work at a shop to get paid, i seen people get a paint job and cry cause they got overspray on there window.... hello its a window clean it off. on the other hand if your are going to have a bussiness and you stand by your name and your products then its your job to insure that the customer is happy and is fully explained before making the purchase.

Maybe CBD should put a warning like the bodykit companies do and say * products should be installed by a professioal shop* that way its ok for it not to fit perfect cause the CBD would be impliying that you should seek a shop for installation.

bad04srt · Post by **bad04srt** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:27 am

^so your saying its ok for companies to make poor quality products as long as they say "should be professionally installed"? then why bother paying the extra ass raping CBD price if it fits so bad i need a shop to install it? bottom line is CBD started out making good products to build up their customer base and put out a good quality product, but then when business started booming they gradually put out worse and worse product.....if all these people are lying and CBD really does make only top knotch quality, why isnt there a thread like this for ANY OTHER CF PRODUCER!?!?!

KrackstaR · Post by **KrackstaR** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:48 pm

bad01neon wrote:^so your saying its ok for companies to make poor quality products as long as they say "should be professionally installed"? then why bother paying the extra ass raping CBD price if it fits so bad i need a shop to install it? bottom line is CBD started out making good products to build up their customer base and put out a good quality product, but then when business started booming they gradually put out worse and worse product.....if all these people are lying and CBD really does make only top knotch quality, why isnt there a thread like this for ANY OTHER CF PRODUCER!?!?!

well by them not saying "should be professionally installed" they are implying that there products are perfect and the average JOE could install them. But if im buying something that says is should have a professional install them then its a warning to me as a consumer that lets me know hey do i want to kick out this money for this product and have someone install it. Lets be real electricblue wing fitmint is pretty crappy but a professional would have no problem installing that on his car perfectly and i bet if it had the "should be professionally installed" warning on the product then he might have not bought it and if he did he prob wouldnt complain about it cause it was a warning that he did not adheare to.

sxt4 · Post by **sxt4** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:25 pm

Truth

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:47 pm

and here i was... ready to buy some eyelids or fog bezels from CBD... now i dont know

to do....

Ballsdeep1 · Post by **Ballsdeep1** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:03 pm

Well, I wouldn't get fitovers if there is a replacement option. So I would see who has replacements and go form there

And I mailed your shirt out this morning on priority mail, should be there wednesday-ish.

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:07 pm

thanks man.

does anyone know where to get a full replacement fog bezel for an SRT front? in carbon of course

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:08 pm

Modernperformance.

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:08 pm

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:09 pm

thanks guys.