Frame Damage? Project car.

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Frame Damage? Project car.

Post by deep1ca » Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:32 am

Hi Guys.

I can get a 2004 SX 2.0 with 80,000km for $2600 CAD.
But it needs some work, i'm up for it as long as it doesn't have frame damage, i'm gonna give them a call tomorrow to find out but from looking at these pictures, what do you guys think? .....

Does it have frame damage?

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Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:03 am

looks like it has it to me...but i dont know..

if you were in the states someone is selling a 2002 neon with a bad tranny for $1500 near by.
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Post by teamliviD » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:34 am

Unless you are a master body man I wouldnt buy that car. Neons are cheap and you can get them anywhere. Save your money for something you can drive now.
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Post by BlackRoseRacing » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:03 am

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http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=5478&start=0

Drivers side frame rail was pushed in 3 inches on my car, the one your looking to buy looks alot worse!
Save your money and try to find one in better condition...

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Post by Diablo0 » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:29 am

Agreed, dont' buy it... unless you can do a lot of the work yourself, you'll spend more money to fix it than if you just went and bought one that better condition.
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Post by dansou5 » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:38 pm

were is the best online places to find a parts car, or a salvageable car?

Or do you guys find it in local junk yards?
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Post by mike9fore » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:43 pm

Alot on E-bay....you can find salvage SRT-4's and Neons all the time

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Post by Jamie » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:10 pm

Hi all, long time no type but this sparked my interest...

as far as frame damage on a Neon...

the neon is built on a unibody frame with front impact crumple zones. translation. even at a slow speed it will crush like a beer can. not that there was anything wrong with the car before the collision but its designed to take the impact so it doesnt transmit the energy to you the happy driver.

so basically even a slow crash can cause frame damage. and on a unibody frame where its all one piece IE no frame rails to chain-pull straiten it kinda makes it difficult and expensive to fix. so just think if that front end got rocked... its gonna be a whole mess and probably just as easy to total it out and start over.

so I called my uncle who has owned a shop for the last 20 years and asked him how he would fix something like that. and basically he said he would hack off the good part of a strait front end from a junk car, then hack off the bent part of the front end, weld, new fenders and paint and out the door. its obviously more complicated than that because there are several critical measurements that must be calculated so things like the alignment will be back to speck, the engine sits strait in the frame and stuff like that. but frame = expensive

so when your looking at these cars that look like they may have a little bump on the front end or the rear end... remember there is often more damage under the bumper covers that you cant see that makes the car not worth it!

so anyway hope im still proving usefull!

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Post by danman132x » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:28 pm

Pleasee check out the 6th video in this link:

http://www.tuninglinx.com/html/fifth-ge ... os-08.html

3rd column right, 2nd row down. It's a pretty useful video imo. Relates to frontal body damage
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Post by deep1ca » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:01 am

Thanks for your input guys, I decided to stay away from it.

I thought just a new hood, fenders, bumper, headlight and possibly a rad would cover it but I suppose it probabbly will have frame damage and not worth takin the chance, would still be a fun project though.
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Post by fixitmattman » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:36 pm

For $2600 you can buy a older 2gn easy if you know where to look.
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Post by deep1ca » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:58 pm

fixitmattman wrote:For $2600 you can buy a older 2gn easy if you know where to look.
Why don't you direct me where to look?

Im lookin for a 2gen neon for 3500ish CAD with no more then 140,000km

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Post by fixitmattman » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:12 pm

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Post by deep1ca » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:23 pm

deep1ca wrote:
fixitmattman wrote:For $2600 you can buy a older 2gn easy if you know where to look.

Im lookin for a 2gen neon for 3500ish CAD with no more then 140,000km

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Post by fixitmattman » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:40 pm

You're asking a lot with the 140 000km. You could work some of those guys down, but you seriously wouldn't buy the $3500 neon with 146 000km, or the $3300 neon with 147 000km? Hell, there were even cheaper ones on the Quebec site even.

You want less km, you have to pay. $3500 is very doable, but throw the km limit on it you have and it gets harder. If you were thinking of buying that $2600 one and fixing it for $900, you wouln't have done that. You would have been over budget for sure.
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Post by frankeneon » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:49 am

I have a friend who has an account @ 1 of the auction sites in Pa and he got me this '00 with 70000 miles on it for $700. The frame wasn't tweaked but the rad support was bent back a little.Good luck and my advice is to take a body man with you when you go to look.
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Post by deep1ca » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:17 am

I ended up buying a Silver 2001 Neon LE with 121,000km for $3000CAD from some retired old guy in the country.

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Post by frankeneon » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:56 am

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