drill bits

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:50 am

do i need a special drill bit to drill through metal? i'm trying to drill a hole in my oil drain plug so i can use a bolt extractor, but it seems like the bits i have are doing nothing...

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:09 am

Yup you need a special one alright, for a special person you are.

Check out any tool place and you should find some.

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:13 am

MyNeonSaysHi wrote:Yup you need a special one alright, for a special person you are.

Check out any tool place and you should find some.

You could have just said yes and go to any tool place. I guess some people just can't help themselves...

kornholio788 · Post by **kornholio788** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:48 am

im sure he was jokin....and yes craftsman if u want a quality bit but be prepared to spend more or ur local lowes or what ever u guys got over there

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:50 am

i know he was, i just get offended easily it's just the way i am...

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:06 pm

danielc24 wrote:i know he was, i just get offended easily it's just the way i am...

sounds like you need to change your diaper then....

yeah it was a joke as well

(please, lighten up

)

kornholio788 · Post by **kornholio788** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:13 pm

"hides under his desk screaming..."NO daddy dont hit mommy""

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:19 pm

^^^

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:53 pm

assholes!

boostinss · Post by **boostinss** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:57 pm

Cobalt or Titanium

just drilled through stainless steal with those bits and they worked very very well

Cbussilver01es · Post by **Cbussilver01es** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:04 pm

are stripped drain plug bolts a common problem with neons? Bc on my old 1gn and on my 2gn its on so tight that I cant get it, or the bolt is stripped.

j0n · Post by **j0n** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:19 pm

If your typical "metal" drill bit can't get through a bolt(like a hardened grade 8 bolt) you can actually use a carbide masonry bit. Just buy one of the cheap vermont american bits at home depot and itll go through the steel like butta

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:50 pm

Cbussilver01es wrote:are stripped drain plug bolts a common problem with neons? Bc on my old 1gn and on my 2gn its on so tight that I cant get it, or the bolt is stripped.

Mine was nasty as hell from the previous owner. Made a thread about it... I ended up getting a brand new ona and torqued it to spec which is like 17-20 foot pounds I believe.

Oh by the way I wasn't joking....

Of course I was!

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:23 am

i can't even describe what shape my drain plug is... kind of round, square, and triangle? and rusted bad so hopefully i get it out tomorrow...

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:47 am

I don't know what kind of gorilla put on my drain plug last, but, I had to torch it, and take a hammer and chisel to it to pound it. I took my dremel and madre little notches aroune the edge of the bolt shoulder, and put the chisel in the notches, hammered it around, no problem.

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:55 am

how hot did you have to get it? i'm afraid the drill i have isn't going to be strong enough to extract it...

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:58 am

danielc24 wrote:how hot did you have to get it? i'm afraid the drill i have isn't going to be strong enough to extract it...

Actually, thats not what did it, I think it was the notches and the pounding that did it.

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:41 am

maybe i'll try that first

j0n · Post by **j0n** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:21 am

j0n wrote:If your typical "metal" drill bit can't get through a bolt(like a hardened grade 8 bolt) you can actually use a carbide masonry bit. Just buy one of the cheap vermont american bits at home depot and itll go through the steel like butta

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:20 am

Go buy a "bolt out" kit from Craftsman. They really do work. So does the "screw out" kit.

silentneon01 · Post by **silentneon01** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:38 pm

If your using a "normal" B&D 3/8th hand man helper drill that may add to the reason why your not having much luck.

Get yourself a drill with some balls. Dewalt, Mil, portacable. Anything other then orgn B&D or Ryobi (spelling)

make sure its got a 1/2 chuck.

Get your some cutting oil and 16 bit high speed metal drill bit set.

spray cutting oil on area you want to drill. Start with a 1/8th bit. Then step up your bit sizes to you get to the size you need for the extractor. Remeber to keep bit and hole oiled.

Dont force the bits cause them small one will break and then your F'd

Smoke is ok

If you break that extractor. just buy a new oil pan

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:59 am

ok i tried cutting notches and using a hammer and chisel but that didn't work... can i drill it out without messing my threads up?

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:35 pm

Any HSS bit will handle the job, it'll go faster if you get something fancy like titanium or cobalt until you wear the coating off.

Honestly, don't drill it. If you stripped it already and it's that tight, you'll just break off the screw extractor in the bolt. There's probably at least 2 threads where I've posted a better tool to use. For $20 just go and buy that and be done with it.

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:11 pm

well there is nothing left of the head of the bolt , it's almost flat

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:02 pm

I was able to get this bolt out of the transmission.... very top bolt in my tranny tunnel... so needless to say I had no room what so ever..

I bought this..

http://www.epinions.com/content_120728161924

Works like a CHARM!

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:17 pm

mine is flat, nothing at all to grab onto with anything lol

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:10 pm

The kit will work still..

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:15 pm

i dont see how it would still work, it says inside the socket are swirled teeth to grip the bolt. Well i dont have anything to go inside of the socket.

LowNSlow · Post by **LowNSlow** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:17 pm

Inside the sockets are like TEETH basically that bite the bolt or what ever is left..

If nothing is left... grab one thats one size too small.

Hammer it on.... and then when you turn it to take it off.. the teeth will bite into the bolt and grab.. so you can loosen it.

danielc24 · Post by **danielc24** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:42 pm

i've decided to take my pan off and drill my plug out and go oversized. Wont the oversized plug thread itself in? and what size plug should i get?