Whats wrong with this picture?

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:39 pm

Who can tell me whats wrong with this? (Other then it being a Honda...)

Delta · Post by **Delta** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:44 pm

Other then needing a timing belt, I dunno...

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:47 pm

Yeah...

There goes the beater. The really funny thing, Thursday it was going in for a new water pump and timing belt

Delta · Post by **Delta** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:49 pm

Ouch. Honda's are interference motors aren't they?

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:49 pm

Nice timing.

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:57 pm

quicksilvr wrote:Nice timing.

You arsehole

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:03 pm

FTWNeon wrote:
quicksilvr wrote:Nice timing.
You arsehole

Couldn't resist.

But I guess I should be concerned, as Delta is, that maybe the timing wasn't quite so nice. You think you bent valves? How fast was the engine turning over when the belt gave out? I don't know much about Honda engines, I have no idea if that motor would be an interference design or not. I guess that's what Google is for huh...

03sxt · Post by **03sxt** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:06 pm

At least it was in the plans, right?

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:08 pm

I have no idea if they are bent or not, I have a feeling they could be though. I was accelerating from a stop light, just to about shift so probably about 3-4K. I dunno for sure, Tac doesn't work.

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:10 pm

FTWNeon wrote:Tac doesn't work.

Sign of a true beater....

Well, if you have the guy put a new belt on it, and get the timing corrected and it runs ok, I'd just drive it. If any of them got bent bad enough, you'll know it when you try to run it.

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:32 pm

yey to carburetted hondas!

Drove my grandma's 87 accord till the brake lines rusted through. Then I talked my dad and gram in to getting the first 2gen neon in the family.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:52 am

1.5L?
Did a belt on my mother in laws civic when I overhauled the engine, not to hard to set the timing and the tensioner was spring loaded. The bitch is getting in there to do it...

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:48 am

BlackRoseRacing wrote:1.5L?
Did a belt on my mother in laws civic when I overhauled the engine, not to hard to set the timing and the tensioner was spring loaded. The bitch is getting in there to do it...

Yuppers, I was just gonna say screw it this time and take it somewhere. Being doing some research though and it's not looking too good. It is an interference motor and every other case I'm found on some forums resulted in some form of valve damage. I don't really consider it to be worth it to me to rebuild it so I may just sell it as a rolling shell. I dunno, I got alot of thinking to do.

anomalous0 · Post by **anomalous0** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:04 am

hondas tend to be pretty high compression. It's how they get that gas mileage and rev so high, amongst other reasons.
High compression usually tends to indicate an interference design.
you might be able to part it out if some of the rest of it is in good condition

Post by **Diablo0** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:17 am

You're low on blinker fluid as well

ChrisRT · Post by **ChrisRT** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:33 pm

anomalous0 wrote:hondas tend to be pretty high compression. It's how they get that gas mileage and rev so high, amongst other reasons.
High compression usually tends to indicate an interference design.
you might be able to part it out if some of the rest of it is in good condition

Um. No.

The engines small size, and valvetrain design allow it to rev high. Not the compression. Turbo-Honda's still rev high and they can be low compression.

The gas mileage is part of the effeciet-ness(sP) of the engine. (compression, cam design, flow, etc).

There are plenty of high compression V8's that aren't "interference designs".

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:39 pm

When I first looked at this post my first reaction was "That air filter cover says 12 valve??? 12 valves divided by 4 cylinders, = 3 valves/cylinder?

Cool, er, not cool about the timing y0... I personally would get it fixed! I want a beater so bad

04sxt2.0 · Post by **04sxt2.0** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:26 pm

its better you broke the timing belt instead of the cam shaft my buddy broke his camshaft in his 92 honda accord lx. that sucks

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:56 pm

B16 swap!!!

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:40 pm

when we got rid of the 87 accord we got $100 for it so id really think about getting rid of it. Mind you this accord only had 75,000 miles on it.

refect · Post by **refect** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:57 am

dont forget to change the muffler bearings either

j0n · Post by **j0n** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:28 am

my beater honda makes ~50 more horsepower than my neon lol

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:12 pm

you might be good on the valves. i had an 89 crx that the timing belt busted also... i was doing about 40 mph. my water pump seized and made the belt bust. but just the bishes replaced and she was good to go.

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:21 pm

I'm probably just gonna sell it. If someone can put and water pump and belt on, then they'll have got a good deal. I don't even really want to mess with it. I'll be looking at a guys truck from work tomorrow and see what happens.

ChrisRT · Post by **ChrisRT** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:52 am

I really wonder how hard it would be to put a "B" series into that car...

FTWNeon · Post by **FTWNeon** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:33 pm

You'd have to convert the car to fuel injection and from some of the people I've talked too, it's alot of work. Just about every harness in the car has to be replaced, new fuel line, gas tank, fuel pump, custom motor mounts, etc.

I'd thought about doing that but it's just more work then I want to do. I think I may and pick up a truck for daily beater, just need to find something decent for under $3K

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:21 pm

Dude, MS that mug!