Need a new muffler

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:18 pm

Ok, I am wanting to know what a good, free-flowing muffler that will actually muffle the sound (take out the raspiness that the stock dual outlet exhaust has) and make it sound mean, not loud necessarily -- although I do not care about it to much, I just want the raspy RT/ACR exhaust gone... and honestly, I am not to fond of the whole dual outlet thing... which means I need to do something about the bumper... prefer 2.5" inlet and at least 3" out, maybe 3.25" max... pictures of yours would be nice, or links to some good ones, with some sort of "FLOW" or dyno proof of why it is better

Thanks guys!

OB · Post by OB » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:05 am

I like the way you're thinking, thats pretty much the route i'm going as well. The duals are a bit played out, and a waste of weight IMO. Personally I plan on going with the simplest and most effective setup out there: A cherry bomb glasspack and a dump at the end of the exhaust tunnel. No excess weight, no big dollar cat back systems, and a deep, toned sound. My gf is running the same size cherry bomb that I plan on running through an srt rear section and there is no rasp at all (well, except when cold of course). The muffler can be had for $25, and you're only a few simple welds away from a great sounding, free flowing, $100 exhaust system. What's there to argue with?

kevo · Post by **kevo** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:46 am

OB wrote:I like the way you're thinking, thats pretty much the route i'm going as well. The duals are a bit played out, and a waste of weight IMO. Personally I plan on going with the simplest and most effective setup out there: A cherry bomb glasspack and a dump at the end of the exhaust tunnel. No excess weight, no big dollar cat back systems, and a deep, toned sound. My gf is running the same size cherry bomb that I plan on running through an srt rear section and there is no rasp at all (well, except when cold of course). The muffler can be had for $25, and you're only a few simple welds away from a great sounding, free flowing, $100 exhaust system. What's there to argue with?

the SRT exhaust with any glasspack system is just too loud. I have gone through many different exhaust setups and i think i am currently on my fourth midpipe. It might be free flowing but you are going to be so loud that you will wake the dead.

if you want deep sound + performance the only setup i have seen like that would be a small glasspack + magnaflow muffler.

2k1MotorSport · Post by **2k1MotorSport** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:25 am

couldn't you go w/ a aftermarket r/t thermal exhaust

yellowpatrol · Post by **yellowpatrol** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:37 am

Hey I'm in the market for something similar, let me know what you end up getting Andrew.

jphillips · Post by **jphillips** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:26 am

what about a motorcycle style can at the rear? those can't weigh more than 7-10lbs? I've seen some bigass cans at PepBoys that were kinda ricey looking, but you could stuff most of it under the rear valance...

jckevns · Post by **jckevns** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:41 am

If you're just looking for a muffler I would say go with magnaflow. I had for a while nice and deep with no rasp. I bought a universal fit for aobut $50.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:12 am

I thought about magnaflow, which my muffler guy specializes in, so that would be cheap for me. But I like the sound of Quicksilvr's, which I think is an eBay brand BOMZ...

I guess my really problem is I do not want to have the dual outlet, which means I need to find a way to do away with the already dual cutouts in the rear bumper, and replacing the rear is not an option (although a nice SRT rear would do!!!

). All in all, I think what I will end up doing is one of two things...

1) a "fart can" like muffler, with a nice mellow tone, in the range of 3 1/2" outlet, possibly put a glasspack in the midpipe, and run 2.5" pipes all the way back.

2) remove the rear section, put in a LARGE glasspack and run like OB said with no rear section, and just a dump somewhere. I think it would be a little loud though, and the sound would be too much for DD.

SGT BRAD · Post by **SGT BRAD** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:21 pm

why don't you just make me an offer on my axle-back thermal rd? slap a glasspack in the tunnel and you'll have a great sounding and great looking set-up.
brad

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:21 pm

andrew.... what do you want for your R/T muffler after you discard it from teh vehicle....

kevo · Post by **kevo** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:35 pm

magnaflow has plenty of single tip mufflers.

OB · Post by OB » Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:24 am

Even with a wide open exhaust, our cars are far from being "too loud" IMO. I ran that way for months and its not even close to being unbearable. My gf runs a 23" glasspack (the smallest one available IIRC) and an srt rear section, and its about 20% quieter than running wide open, not to mention much more clean (i.e. very few snaps crackles and pops). A good cannon (like my old apexi) is extremely good at keeping sounds down (only about 15-20% louder than stock) and the flow is flawless. That quality comes at a price though.

Loud = straight pipe

Toned down, but loud = small glasspack

Mild = Cannon/flowmaster style muffler

Silent = stock muffler

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:55 pm

TiNK wrote:andrew.... what do you want for your R/T muffler after you discard it from teh vehicle....

I will let you know

Also, I do not want a dual tip, which is why I have not offered anything on the thermal R&D SGT BRAD.

I also do not want the srt4 catback. Trying to stay away from dual exit exhaust.

One more thing, I think the magnaflow and dynomax are supposed to be some of the best flowing mufflers. Any thoughts?

SGT BRAD · Post by **SGT BRAD** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:18 pm

[quote="kc2002acr] Also, I do not want a dual tip, which is why I have not offered anything on the thermal R&D SGT BRAD.

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ouch, that hurts

popcornPIMPz · Post by **popcornPIMPz** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:56 pm

That's what I have on my Neon. I just went to Meijer & bought the longer Cherry Bomb they had & placed it where my stock muffler was then added an elbow with a chrome tip on it & it sounds good enough for only 30 bucks or so.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:15 pm

OB wrote:Even with a wide open exhaust, our cars are far from being "too loud" IMO. I ran that way for months and its not even close to being unbearable. My gf runs a 23" glasspack (the smallest one available IIRC) and an srt rear section, and its about 20% quieter than running wide open, not to mention much more clean (i.e. very few snaps crackles and pops). A good cannon (like my old apexi) is extremely good at keeping sounds down (only about 15-20% louder than stock) and the flow is flawless. That quality comes at a price though.

Loud = straight pipe

Toned down, but loud = small glasspack

Mild = Cannon/flowmaster style muffler

Silent = stock muffler

I guess each person has their preset of what is loud or not. Most people, including myself that have tried that think it's just way too loud.

Pablodragon · Post by **Pablodragon** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:21 pm

popcornPIMPz wrote:That's what I have on my Neon. I just went to Meijer & bought the longer Cherry Bomb they had & placed it where my stock muffler was then added an elbow with a chrome tip on it & it sounds good enough for only 30 bucks or so.

hmmm... hey popcorn, you have the same year and model as me... hmmm, Meijers eh?... did you have to fabricate some hangers?... could you (or me)..just put on that Cherry Bomb right where the stock exhaust bolts on right by the rear axle?..then just run it straight back, instead of running it accross and out the passenger side?

contagious18 · Post by **contagious18** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:37 pm

i have dis muffler laying aroun, http://youtube.com/watch?v=7ASYc3K0jZI dats how it sounded on my neon.

popcornPIMPz · Post by **popcornPIMPz** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:46 pm

Well I didn't put it on my dad did lol. But we just sawed off the muffler like 2 inches or so behind it. Then got some adapter pieces so connect the original exhaust piping with the cherry bomb, then the same thing with the elbow and the tip just screwed on. It comes out the back of my car, but points down a bit which I don't like.

OB · Post by OB » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:23 am

Pablodragon wrote:
popcornPIMPz wrote:That's what I have on my Neon. I just went to Meijer & bought the longer Cherry Bomb they had & placed it where my stock muffler was then added an elbow with a chrome tip on it & it sounds good enough for only 30 bucks or so.
hmmm... hey popcorn, you have the same year and model as me... hmmm, Meijers eh?... did you have to fabricate some hangers?... could you (or me)..just put on that Cherry Bomb right where the stock exhaust bolts on right by the rear axle?..then just run it straight back, instead of running it accross and out the passenger side?

It would likely drag on the ground, the midpipe curves down where it joins to the rear section, and its pretty steep IIRC.

A cherry bomb is a good street muffler and has the best flow/sound for the money. It has no actual baffling, like the flowmaster style, so restriction is minimal. It is a hair loud for many people, but just mellow enough for those who like a good deep tone.

popcornPIMPz · Post by **popcornPIMPz** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:18 pm

Idk if you can run it str8 back. That's what I wanted to do at first but was told there wouldn't be anything to hold the muffler up & it'd drag like OB said. So I just put it where the stock muffler was, not a big deal.

2001Neon_LX · Post by **2001Neon_LX** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:22 pm

Magnaflow, I have a stainless polished one on my car and it is just a universal fit welded into the stock muffler location, and it is one of the best 4 cyl. sounds i have heard, certainly better than any fart cannon, cherry bomb, deep tone, mid range on the loud scale, and no raspiness, cept in the morning when it is dead cold but just inbetween 3 and 3 1/2 thousand rpm.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:57 am

2001Neon_LX wrote:Magnaflow, I have a stainless polished one on my car and it is just a universal fit welded into the stock muffler location, and it is one of the best 4 cyl. sounds i have heard, certainly better than any fart cannon, cherry bomb, deep tone, mid range on the loud scale, and no raspiness, cept in the morning when it is dead cold but just inbetween 3 and 3 1/2 thousand rpm.

what muffler exactly do you have? and do you have pics of it installed? link or something to it, and can you get a vid/sound clip of it?

I am curious to see it, my muffler guy gets magnaflow, and he says he likes them all a lot.

2001Neon_LX · Post by **2001Neon_LX** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:40 am

ya I will take a few pictures of it, and i will try to figure out which model number the muffler is for ya.