quick question about drifting

[Whitey]

now, obviously it's terrible for your tires, but how bad?

I've been brushing up on it lately in parking lots and a few times on the street (with my neon)... mostly using the hand brake

i'd imagine that you can sh*t your tires pretty quickly?

[atom]

Whatever your doing, its not drifting. Unless you are at your local hockey arena, you can not drift with a 100 hp fwd car. You are probably doing donuts. lol

[Whitey]

not donuts lol

i mean using the hand brake to break traction and swing the back end around when iI'm making turns, then holding down on the accelerator and completing the turn and continuing

whatever you would classify that as

[esteinmaier]

Do you have a rear sway? You're acting like a moron either way, but there is no performance advantage or "coolness" factor to whipping out the back end. If you're swayless, the second that you come off the brakes and jump on the accelerator, you are pulling the car out of the skid, and not using the steering to control the drift, so you're just being an idiot wasting your tires and trying to look cool.

[khronus]

^^^ powerslide

[Whitey]

aight basically what I'm doing with it is turning while only having to slow down to about 40mph (or higher on a round turn). otherwise taking a sharp 90 or 180 degree turn would take a lot bigger turning radius. understand where i'm coming from?

EDIT:

Do you have a rear sway? You're acting like a moron either way, but there is no performance advantage or "coolness" factor to whipping out the back end. If you're swayless, the second that you come off the brakes and jump on the accelerator, you are pulling the car out of the skid, and not using the steering to control the drift, so you're just being an idiot wasting your tires and trying to look cool.

the rear does sway out but the front end breaks traction too. as soon as the back starts to sway out i start to counter steer to keep the front end kinda pointing toward the way I want to go

[atom]

Thats not a drift and I'm not being mean either. Thats a powerslide. If it hasn't happened already, your going to damage your shocks and rip your control arm bushings. Don't do that man untill you have a complete suspension overhaul.

[Whitey]

Thats not a drift and I'm not being mean either. Thats a powerslide. If it hasn't happened already, your going to damage your shocks and rip your control arm bushings. Don't do that man untill you have a complete suspension overhaul.

aight

just to clear up, what is drifting then?

wikipedia.....

Drifting refers to a driving technique and to a motor sport involving the use of the technique. This article deals primarily with the sport. A car is said to be drifting when the rear slip angle is greater than the front slip angle, and the front wheels are pointing in the opposite direction to the turn (e.g. car is turning left, wheels are pointed right), and the driver is controlling these factors.

basically was what i thought i was doing

this is kind of a sh*tty example but it fits the standards right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO1Uo_mBQzM

[atom]

nope thats not a drift, not even a powerslide, more like a wipeout. You basically need a rwd vehicle to drift, but i guess some can do it with awd.

here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tScs-4SLZH8

[khronus]

This is what you are doing, and like atom wrote "not to be mean"

http://www.modernracer.com/tips/frontwh ... steer.html

Please note the part where it says " You will not be able to hold a long, continuous sideways drift around a sweeping corner with a front-wheel-drive car like you can with a rear-wheel-drive vehicle, and you cannot use engine power on a high-horsepower car to start a "powerslide" since the power acts on the front wheels. But still, contrary to popular belief, oversteer is possible with a front-driver."

[KrackstaR]

who said that you cant drift with front wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTGXMgh-qw

but dude dont try this please.

[khronus]

^^^It must have been me, but I didn't see any of those cars "drift" tru any turns, that's some crazy powersliding though.
U know what, I take all that back, here u go

FWD drift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AElTsOgZ ... ed&search=

[fixitmattman]

You're not drifting, you're driving like a tool. Big difference.

[KrackstaR]

hahaha betta drift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J4KdQQIzW4

[Mr Josh Zombie]

STOP WATCHING THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS!


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[racer12306]

You're not drifting, you're driving like a tool. Big difference.

and people wonder why their insurance rate is rediculously high when they are 16. parking lots, ok, probably a better chance of not hurting other cars. but on the street, thats just plain stupid.

[khronus]

That truck is outrageous

[deep1ca]

truck racing along with drifting is a common in europe.

[rOniN]

STOP WATCHING THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS!

Good point!

[Adionik]

Don't feel bad man, i'm a drifter too. I went through 4 sets of toyo tires on my neon man.

Keep up the good fight!

DRIFT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[evilneon02]

if you want to know about drifting check the 2nd link under my pic yes you can drift a fwd not powerslide but drift check it out

[mike9fore]

there have been an awful lot of Drifitng Threads popping up lately. Did people just start watching Drifting? or are they watching speedtv ON DEMAND??

[kc2005ptgt]

I hav3 som3 m4d dr1ft sk1llz y0!!!!

Come on, I can't imagine why someone is trying to drift a neon.

You're not drifting, you're driving like a tool. Big difference.

Stop acting like a fool, and I really hope if you are doing this in any public area, you get busted for it and loose your license. stop making other 16 year olds look bad! Stop looking for answers on Wikipedia as well.

End of thread.

[MyNeonSaysHi]

I hav3 som3 m4d dr1ft sk1llz y0!!!!

Come on, I can't imagine why someone is trying to drift a neon.

You're not drifting, you're driving like a tool. Big difference.

Stop acting like a fool, and I really hope if you are doing this in any public area, you get busted for it and loose your license. stop making other 16 year olds look bad! Stop looking for answers on Wikipedia as well.

End of thread.

But its mAd tYye y0!

[khronus]

I don't mean to start a fight or anything, but there is no such thing as FWD drifting, I've been following drifting since way before 3fast 3furious(or faster furiouser, whateva), since way b4 it became popular in the tuning magazines, b4 D1 came to the US and b4 Initial D, and FWD drifting has only been in question since it came to the US, kids in their civics and integras started trying to emulate what the they saw in the popular comics Initial D(that's as far back as I can trace it). Our brothers from the land of the rising sun(where drifting became so popular) don't have this argument, why?? because there is no argument, they have known for a long time what we here in the US are still trying to find out and fight against.

Without going any furher I'd like to quote what Whitey wrote about his wikipidia find:
"A car is said to be drifting when the rear slip angle is greater than the front slip angle, and the front wheels are pointing in the opposite direction to the turn (e.g. car is turning left, wheels are pointed right), and the driver is controlling these factors."

Now please refer to this link:
http://www.modernracer.com/tips/driftangles.html

Now please look at the first picture closely, and look even closer at the front wheels of the FWD car. Now let me quote again:
"the front wheels are pointing in the opposite direction to the turn (e.g. car is turning left, wheels are pointed right), and the driver is controlling these factors."
As you can see the front wheels point opposite to the turn until before the apex and then the wheels point straight to the exit of the turn therefore preventing the car from doing a drift.
"So I did half a drift" you might say, well actually not, what you did and will continue to do is called Induced Oversteer, a technique used by roadracers and autoXers(and please guys correct me if I got the name wrong).
I don't want to get into physics and crap like that, but if you want PLEASE research, the internet is your best friend and please stay away from ricer websites since absolutetly every single one of those guys can do full drifts tru whole turns and multiple sets of S turns in their civics and integras
Other than that keep destroying your tires, in a safely manner

[evilneon02]

it dont matter what you call it. it still can be done
http://streetracing.tiora.net/japan/drift/drift1.htm

[khronus]

can u show me that FWD u talking about, I just can't see it there

[jonnymopar]

The only FWD cars that I see in that video are drag racing. Drifting cars shown: Skyline = RWD. 350Z = RWD. You can't see much on the few quick rear night shots, but they look like Toyota AE86's, which are RWD.

[evilneon02]

not the video the artical it says it can be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQMQkMvR ... ed&search=
if a civic can do it i think we can too

[boostinss]

now, obviously it's terrible for your tires, but how bad?

I've been brushing up on it lately in parking lots and a few times on the street (with my neon)... mostly using the hand brake

i'd imagine that you can sh*t your tires pretty quickly?

i cant believe u are actually serious