Learning from my mistakes...pics of the carnage, lol.

01NeonSnooZer · Post by **01NeonSnooZer** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:34 pm

Please, 2gn owners, don't do one wheel burnouts. I know it's tempting to show off to your friends. I did and this is what happened.......

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:36 pm

diff pin shot through the housing??

01NeonSnooZer · Post by **01NeonSnooZer** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:48 pm

Ohh, yea. I found out about the poblem 3 weeks before it happened and I had stopped doing the burnouts but the damage had already been done. I was cruising down the turn pike about 100 miles from home and it let go.

I waited for a month for the tranny I ordered to come in only to find out that it was the wrong one. I ordered another one through the dealership and it came the next day. I was so pissed. I kicked myself for having not done that in the first place. Look what happened with my car. The guy I had tow the car was a "friend of a friend" and I wasn't paying attention when he ratched strapped the back end down and he did this.

The ratchet on the strap rubbed the paint off down to bare metal. Even at the expense of my paint, the car still was not properly restrained. This happened when the bumper hit the trailer.

I am so mad about that. Oh well. Just an excuse for me to get the car painted with my tax return.

Post by **jonnymopar** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:47 pm

Heh, the previous owner of my car prepared my transmission for that exact failure for me. Not too long after I got my car, I had the same failure. Mine happened in a parking lot, so I was able to scrounge all the pieces. You should have seen the fcking diff pin! Galled to all hell! (Of course, when I posted pics up on Neons.org, I get some genious saying "durrr, that's not from one-wheel burnouts")

Damn dealership tried to blame it on me. Funny how that happened at 34k miles, and yet, the new transmission has 47k trouble-free miles on it now. Pricks. Ah well, it was free.

01NeonSnooZer · Post by **01NeonSnooZer** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:35 pm

they're douchebags

Post by **Diablo0** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:13 pm

That'll learn ya...

01NeonSnooZer · Post by **01NeonSnooZer** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:48 pm

Yea, no shit. I been nice to this new one. Everything I do towards racing is done from a roll from now on.....Until I get an NV T-850.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:56 pm

Damn, you may have to eat rice for a while to pay for that!
On the turnpike? You're lucky that's all the carnage there was! That had to make a hell of a noise.

01NeonSnooZer · Post by **01NeonSnooZer** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:45 pm

Dude, it was the textbook example of an explosion. There was a lound *BANG*, debris fly out from under the car and a huge trail of smoke caused by the tranny fluid getting on my cat.

Post by **jonnymopar** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:56 pm

I'm glad mine didn't do that. I didn't even know mine was about to go! I dropped a friend of mine off at a train station. I go to take off and the car stalls. Go to do it again and it stalls again. The car didn't even budge either time and the e-brake wasn't set. So I give it some gas and try to take off the third time, I hear just a little pop, and then I'm standing still... in 1st gear... clutch released... with my speedometer at 10mph... not moving. Get out and there's a POOL of oil. Not bad for 2:30am on a Sunday. AAA only took 3 hours to get there.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:04 pm

YAY for diff tabs, that i am allegedly supposed to have

01NeonSnooZer · Post by **01NeonSnooZer** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:26 am

I need some but I don't wanna pull my tranny again so I'l just be nice to this one.

Post by **jonnymopar** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:20 pm

Hmm... I thought it was only the 05 transmission that got the diff savers. I'm not worried about mine because I had mine replaced in September 2005 with a brand new factory transmission. I wish I could have gotten a PT clutch tossed in there at the time, but I wasn't going to push the issue.

KrackstaR · Post by **KrackstaR** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:44 pm

racer12306 wrote:YAY for diff tabs, that i am allegedly supposed to have

i have dif tabs too i have learned that lesson already every neon i own will have them.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:16 am

Mine let loose too, but I was not beating on it....
My pin came out enough to shear a 1/2 inch off the end of the pin and then the pin jumped back into the diff allowing me to still move the car but very slowly.
The FWD dodges seem to be knwon for the diff pin letting loose like this, but the majority of the ones that do let loose are from abuse or mainly one wheel peels...

Post by **jonnymopar** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:24 am

Well, Comcast decided to randomly stop fcking up on me, so I'll add to the collection going here:

http://home.comcast.net/~jonnymopar/trans.html

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:38 am

jonnymopar wrote:Hmm... I thought it was only the 05 transmission that got the diff savers.

I was told my 04 had them. Maybe Chris can verify this?

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:07 pm

not to bring back an old post but do i need to worry about this. what do i gotta do to prevent it. how much does it cost to get these saver things and what not.

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:55 pm

Well, the best thing to do is refrain from doing burnouts.

The tabs should be cheap. However, the trans has to be taken out of the car and taken apart to put them in, I believe.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:06 am

burnouts are pointless except to show off and cause excessive wear and tear. even at the drag strip, you're not pushing enough power to need slicks, and doing a burnout on street tires is pointless and detrimental to traction. just avoid the water box. of course, if the trans has already been abused, there's a chance that not abusing it any more isn't going to prevent the diff pin from letting go.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:14 am

Chris, could you tell us what year neons came with diff pins?

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:25 am

yeah well is it just burnouts? cause i dont burn out well sometimes when its wet ill slip a little but other than that i dont burnout. only i do sometimes is drop it down a gear or to and punch it? will that mess them up too? im a little scared because i am the second owner and the car came with some rigged up fart can. so i dunno

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:48 am

No need to be worried about it. If it's gonna happen it will.

Burnouts don't help, but like BRR posted above, thats not the only cause.

Good way to look at it is, NV-T350's are plentiful and a used one shouldn't be too much money (if you are out of warranty). Gather some people up and have it done in a day on the weekend.

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:04 am

whats shouldnt be to much money like how much?? maybe i should just get a new tranny anyways. i think i have heard the pt tranny is a good upgrade?

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:29 am

No need for a new trans now. Sorry if I have you paranoid about it, that wasn't my intent.

I believe you can get one for a few hundred dollars from a junkyard.

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:33 am

well i just dont want to be driving down the road and have this happen and break other things ya know? i guess if it happens it happens

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:59 pm

Many people have launched diff pins. It takes out the trans case, don't think anything else.

Also, I checked with Chris and NO NEON ever came with diff pin savers.

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:12 pm

well should i just start shopping around for a tranny? i mean then i could have it ready for when it happens. cause i cant afford to have my car out of service for long periods of time. if so what tranny should i look for? that is kinda performance but not like all out race track.

Mad_Medeiros · Post by **Mad_Medeiros** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:18 pm

for the diff tab question, mines an 04.. i posted pics, and I have the diff saver, you can somewhat see it in this pic covering up half of it.

its there maybe I should of got better pics of it

PS my tranny had a build date of March 10th 2007 on the inside of the case