Dodge CALIBER SRT-4 at an Auto X event.

GTS · Post by **GTS** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:28 pm

The thing is freaking sweet, but I have to say its nothing like the original, its quiet and refined, and it handles well but to get a real comparison you will have to take two side by side drive em listen to them etc... to figure out which one you like better, I personally love the new one, its just that much better then the old one but thats just me. I think the AWD version will be much better choice but we will just have to hold our breaths until it hits show rooms.

Thats my buddy's Escort that he took on the course... lots of work and sweat went into that thing but the final result was good.

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Post by **racer12306** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:31 pm

Did I miss something? When was it decided that the SRT Cabiler would be AWD?

bstc00 · Post by **bstc00** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:33 pm

its been in the plans all along. they couldnt get it ready in time so there going to put awd the second year

01WhiteNe0n · Post by **01WhiteNe0n** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:34 pm

4 door hatch looking srt4 Ftl

Post by **racer12306** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:36 pm

bstc00 wrote:its been in the plans all along. they couldnt get it ready in time so there going to put awd the second year

Got it now, must have missed that press release.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:40 pm

racer12306 wrote:Did I miss something? When was it decided that the SRT Cabiler would be AWD?

ditto.

MotorTrend wrote:AWD Caliber's CVT can't handle SRT torque and its distant platform cousin Evo's AWD system is too expensive in parts and manufacturing (fitting the big electronic front diff moves the engine forward and the transmission aft) to sell profitably at the SRT-4's target price point.

kplaya186 · Post by **kplaya186** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:47 pm

I am planning on purchasing a SRT-4 Caliber in 2009 or 2010 if no other cars around that price catch my attention! I am on a calling list at a couple of dealers, so when they get one in I can go test drive it

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:53 pm

id rather get the demon than a caliber srt4 imo

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:56 pm

ragek23 wrote:id rather get the demon than a caliber srt4 imo

me too.. if they ever build it

kplaya186 · Post by **kplaya186** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:03 pm

ragek23 wrote:id rather get the demon than a caliber srt4 imo

Sweet car, but the 2-seater wouldn't be practical for me!

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:06 pm

Im looking for an Elise to buy..

Practical

lol

GTS · Post by **GTS** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:13 pm

Well the way I see it 09 might be the year when they release the AWD which will have projected power of about 325hp... the current one was supposed to be 305 but due to terrible torque steer they dropped it about 20hp and limited the boost in 1st gear just to keep the tires from braking loose too much...

The one at the autoX seemed real fast and no tire spin at all the guy seemed like he was babying it but the numbers tell everythign, in fact he was right up there with the AWD cars and the other Turbo cars... so that thing is not slow at all.

I am thinking about getting one but we will have to see, Ford is about to let out a new Fusion with AWD and a 2.5L Turbo from its SVT line up and being that I am a Ford Engineer, I might get one....

kplaya186 · Post by **kplaya186** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:17 pm

GTS wrote:Fusion with AWD and a 2.5L Turbo from its SVT line up and being that I am a Ford Engineer, I might get one....

I have always been a Ford guy, and I like the fusion... Sounds like another car I might be interested in, and my dad gets A-plan!

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:27 pm

GTS wrote:Well the way I see it 09 might be the year when they release the AWD which will have projected power of about 325hp... the current one was supposed to be 305 but due to terrible torque steer they dropped it about 20hp and limited the boost in 1st gear just to keep the tires from braking loose too much...

where are you getting your info..?

cause there is Nothing on the intraweb and I've read nothing about AWD even being a possibility otherwise.

this quote sums it up

MotorTrend wrote:AWD Caliber's CVT can't handle SRT torque and its distant platform cousin Evo's AWD system is too expensive in parts and manufacturing (fitting the big electronic front diff moves the engine forward and the transmission aft) to sell profitably at the SRT-4's target price point.

GTS · Post by **GTS** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:47 pm

...I got my ways...

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:48 pm

doubt it.

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:21 pm

01rtgurl · Post by **01rtgurl** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:22 pm

^agreed

GTS · Post by **GTS** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:48 pm

Sostice GXP on slicks with suspension mods... it was the fastest car of the day.

387RWHP RX7 it was pretty bad ass but it couldnt turn... so it kinda sucked on the tight course..

Post by **racer12306** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:53 pm

The caliber looks ginormous. Definitly didn't look right going around a turn like that.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:11 pm

GTS wrote:The thing is freaking sweet, but I have to say its nothing like the original, its quiet and refined, and it handles well but to get a real comparison you will have to take two side by side drive em listen to them etc... to figure out which one you like better, I personally love the new one, its just that much better then the old one but thats just me. I think the AWD version will be much better choice but we will just have to hold our breaths until it hits show rooms.

Well it shouldn't be nothing like the original because the original was a Neon and the new one is a Caliber.

Nutmeg · Post by **Nutmeg** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:17 pm

racer12306 wrote:The caliber looks ginormous. Definitly didn't look right going around a turn like that.

Yeah, that boxy look doesn't seem right for an SRT. I never exactly liked the Caliber since the first time I saw it.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:33 pm

GTS wrote:...I got my ways...

way to edit the "i know someone at corporate" as your response. lol

I do not see it as profitable to design, manufacture, test, etc etc a brand new system for something that would drive the price up to a price point people won't buy. Selling it for a couple grand more wouldn't make up for all the millions they would have used to research and develop it. A $30-35K Dodge won't compete with a $30-35K Evo or STi.

Plus nothing in the automotive world is a secret especially considering you're saying 09 when the 08 Caliber SRT-4 is about to hit the market. Nothing would be this secretive, where there is no info on it this close to 2009. Especially on a car that would bearly sell a 1000 a year. All that wasted money wouldn't make sense.

GTS · Post by **GTS** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:12 am

MoxHairR/T wrote:
GTS wrote:...I got my ways...
way to edit the "i know someone at corporate" as your response. lol

I do not see it as profitable to design, manufacture, test, etc etc a brand new system for something that would drive the price up to a price point people won't buy. Selling it for a couple grand more wouldn't make up for all the millions they would have used to research and develop it. A $30-35K Dodge won't compete with a $30-35K Evo or STi.

Plus nothing in the automotive world is a secret especially considering you're saying 09 when the 08 Caliber SRT-4 is about to hit the market. Nothing would be this secretive, where there is no info on it this close to 2009. Especially on a car that would bearly sell a 1000 a year. All that wasted money wouldn't make sense.

Well I am sorry I just dont feel like starting the whole topic of who knows what and who got their info from who, I dont want to compromise my friendship with my fellow Neon members and my sources... but best put would be "just wait and see" thats all I got to say.

BTW the AWD was in development but it reduced accelaration times and increased weight of the vehicle and all combined with cost acted in a negative sence and thats why they decided to put it off for now... but the issue with the torque steer is so bad that they have to go back to the original idea and the AWD... the RT already has it... so there wont be any significant increase in cost except they will need to beef up some of their components...

But then again lets just wait and see what will come down the line...

The current magnum and charger are going to the 390hp from 340 and the displacement is upped to a 6.1 I think...

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:24 am

Haha, this guy's lost.....

He must have thought he was on the other .org......

You are a LIAR, and have no clue what you are talking about......stop vomiting junk on your keyboard, no one wants to see that crap.

The Caliber SRT will not be AWD!

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:17 am

The R/T has AWD, true

Will the SRT-4 ever have AWD? Doubtful.. probably NEVER

It would mean Engineering a NEW Transaxle, Stronger and NEW components, Changing the suspension Geometry, Moving the engine around, Changing the production facility, Increasing the weight of the vehicle and raising the cost of the vehicle to a range that isnt profitable.

Its a Matter of Logistics.

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:00 pm

MoxHairR/T wrote:Im looking for an Elise to buy..

Practical lol

might as well go for the atom or wait for the new lotus to come out. its 400lbs lighter than the exizge.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:37 pm

ragek23 wrote:
MoxHairR/T wrote:Im looking for an Elise to buy..

Practical lol

might as well go for the atom or wait for the new lotus to come out. its 400lbs lighter than the exizge.

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Atom = Go Kart.. and I rather like my windsheild here in rainy florida.

The Elise with the sport package and removeable hardtop is plenty light for me.. It would run dead even with my SRT til about 75-80. then my SRT would walk it of course.

Arro · Post by **Arro** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:37 pm

Nutmeg wrote:
racer12306 wrote:The caliber looks ginormous. Definitly didn't look right going around a turn like that.
Yeah, that boxy look doesn't seem right for an SRT. I never exactly liked the Caliber since the first time I saw it.

Someone remind me how much the Caliber weighs in at.

I suspect it's far heavier than a 2GN. That alone is a killjoy if so.

This guy with "his sources" sounds like his nose is gonna grow.they said the same thing about AWD 2000 Eclipse, AWD SRT-4 neon, etc. Lots of tall tales out there. Add this to the pile.

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