the Marshmallow

measy27 · Post by **measy27** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:48 am

NIce..Ride.. I think SW is the best color the SRT4's came in.. I was thinkin about gettin a mopar on one of my shoulders...

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:16 pm

got the agp wastegate actuator on today, set to 18 pounds, drop to 16-17 at redline. I'm surprised it holds so well. When I first set out to tune it, it spiked all the way around the stock gauge, pegging the underside of the needle stop for vacuum, I'm assuming over 30psi, due to the actual wastegate sticking shut. My initial modification of the upper heat shield wasn't enough, not allowing the actuator to work. After figuring that out, and repairing it in Joe's driveway (TeamLivid) everything went smoothly. Its nice. And I don't get part throttle overboost unless I'm in too high of a gear for how fast I'm going when I crack the throttle a bit. So I just downshift if I need to accelerate a bit quickly, and no problem.

The e-cutout plate goes in tomorrow, weather permitting. Its supposed to be in the 60's, so it should happen. Time permitting, I may do the torsion struts in the rear, as well.

If Joe gets his o2 housing this week, we're planning on a simultanious install next weekend, since 2 heads are better than one when trying to get it done without removing the lower heat shield.

My second boost gauge pod should be here tomorrow, I may do the wideband install along with the cutout plate since I'll already have the dash apart and be under the car.

Once the o2 housing and cutout are on, she goes to the dyno. I'd like to see around 280whp on 18psi.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:29 pm

Looking forward to seeing the beast in person this July.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:39 am

What happened with the Stage 2 WGA?

I take it you ahve your vac lines re-routed with the AGP right?

He Hate Me · Post by **He Hate Me** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:32 am

I looove this SRT4, SW + SEXY CF HOOD =

And than on top of that, judging by your other post, a big turbo

Keep up the good work!

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:51 am

the s2 is in my garage. I went with the agp due to its easy adjustability, and its supposed to hold boost better than s2. So far I seem to only be losing 1-2 psi from spike to redline, we'll see how that goes. I'm keeping the s2 on hand for a while since I hear PTB is heavy with the agp. I'll see how well I can keep that under control after a few weeks of traffic on the way to work and back, but on the 43 mile trip home from Joe's place, I didn't have a problem. I figured out how I was causing ptb, and adjusted my driving habits accordingly.

As for the vacuum lines, I need to rerun them. I plan on eliminating the solinoids completely, I just need to take the time to do it. Probably today. As of now, the black, green, red and pink lines are just chilling in the engine bay, with the pink one being the only capped one LOL. With the wga, i ran a line from the compressor housing to the wga, with the bleed fitting that agp provided. I need to run to the store tomorrow and buy some line and some couplers and t fittings.

Install was surprisingly problem free. Joe recommended I remove the heat shield when I got to his place, since the bolts were hot, and they came right out. I plan on putting some anti-sieze on them at work this week, to make it easy for next time. Other than my initial screw-up with modifying the heat shield, the only issue I ran into was getting the lower mounting bolt out, I couldn't get a wrench on it with enough room to break it, and couldn't get a socket on it cleanly, but it came out no problem.

Joe lives on a street that a local drag strip is on (Maryland international raceway, its on pinks all the time, we get nopi, and a ton of nhra events), and as I was making 2nd and 3rd gear rips to adjust it, I kept seeing cars passing the other way headed home from opening day. I can't wait to get out there and make a few passes myself. Just need those tires to get here...

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:36 am

Damn I can't believe you got that tat

teamliviD · Post by **teamliviD** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:24 am

I think somebody likes me..........lol

glad i could help out man, 30psi in a stock block is awsome!!!!.........not really lol.

as long as i get all my parts this week, its a go for next weekend!!!

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:12 am

Ahhh I see. I didn't like the driveability when I had my PTP WGA on. PTB was horrible and yeah, you ahve to drive the car differently. I have both the AGP and the S2 also. But I plan on messing with the S2 first since PTB is almost non existant on it and holds boost very well. I only have two bolts holding my heatshield on that covers the WGA line. Does the trick and its easy to take off and put back on.

Damn so much CF man! Looks like you have big plans for the car to make it high horsepower!

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:20 am

I just found this thread as well...going well man

My schedule is screwed all to hell lately, but if you need another pair of hands or two at some point, PM me. My buddy in Thurmont has a SRT as well that is going under major upgrades

and can lend a hand as well.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:30 pm

thanks for the kind words, fellas.

John, thanks for the offer of assistance, I may take you up on that at some point.

E-cutout is on, works flawlessly, got it lined up first time perfectly. As someone stated in oklamopar's dyno thread, it sounds like a dump truck when its open. I went for a long drive when I finished, about 40 miles with it open on the highway, it sounds terrifying. Vibrates the whole car. even tho the car runs rich, I couldn't smell any gas.

During install, I discovered a decent sized hole in the floorboard where the original owner had his cutout ran thru, with no rubber grommet. Went to 2 parts stores and couldn't find one that would fit, so I'm going to get some rubber gasket mat from work tomorrow and spray adhesive it to the floorboard, and cover it all with spray can undercoating or tar or something.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:40 pm

What diameter is the hole? I can probably get one for you.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:58 pm

its shaped like a peanut, about an inch across at its widest point. The peanut part is what prevented me from getting a grommet to fit. What I really need to do is get a replacement body plug (the hole is in the body plug in the driver side front footwell), throw that in, then drill a round hole just big enough for the cutout wires and the o2 sensor wires for my wideband, put the proper size grommet in it, and seal it with some rtv. That's why I'm really not super worried about it. The wideband should be in this week or next weekend, and the cutout wires are in a 2 wire sheath, so I don't think they'll chaff thru in a week or 2 till I get this all installed properly.

Had I thought about it, I'd have come by manassas dodge and said whatup today, I was down that way on 66 on my test drive LOL. Walk up to the parts counter and ask the guy working, "yo, I need to see John Holmes, I think he mashed off my wife", while holding my hand under my shirt near the waistband LOL.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:39 pm

That would have been fun! The idiot working the front window may crap himself, and that along would have been hilarious! 'Cept I have to work up there with him and the smell would have got to me after awhile

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:12 pm

I'll come in and do it next week. Better yet, I'll get a porno with john holmes on the cover and bring it with me! "I wanna see this guy NOW! John Holmes, go get him! My wife's pregnant with his baby and I'm gonna beat his ass!!!"

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:45 pm

Awesome! And the funny thing is, you wouldn't be the first to do that

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:43 pm

well, I was hoping to be able to eliminate the stock vac solinoid completely, but I had to leave the white (tip sensor) line plugged in for some reason, since it's an '05, but I succeeded in removing 8/9 vac lines from it. That side of the motor looks alot cleaner now, its nice. Went for another 60 mile drive, various types of driving, and no problems.

One concern I have is the "plane taking off" sound I start to hear when I get to around 5 in/hg and lower, I'm wondering if its the bleed hole on the fitting supplied by agp with the wastegate. Its a pin hole in a plastic reducing vacuum fitting. It doesn't sound like turbo spool, plus I can run at 5 in/hg steady and the sound stays the same. I guess it could be turbo spool, but I don't go into boost when its doing it.

Also, when I step into the gas but don't floor it, maybe 75-80% throttle (ill check out the safc tomorrow to see how much throttle input) the blow off valve continuously vents/seals, maintaining 15 psi, with no compressor surge, but if I step into it all the way, it'll spike 18-19 and slowly drop 1-2 psi to redline. I'm curious why this happens. It doesn't bother me, and shouldn't be hurting the car, as there is no surge.

Any insite is appreciated.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:57 pm

Wenuden wrote:well, I was hoping to be able to eliminate the stock vac solinoid completely, but I had to leave the white (tip sensor) line plugged in for some reason, since it's an '05, but I succeeded in removing 8/9 vac lines from it. That side of the motor looks alot cleaner now, its nice. Went for another 60 mile drive, various types of driving, and no problems.

One concern I have is the "plane taking off" sound I start to hear when I get to around 5 in/hg and lower, I'm wondering if its the bleed hole on the fitting supplied by agp with the wastegate. Its a pin hole in a plastic reducing vacuum fitting. It doesn't sound like turbo spool, plus I can run at 5 in/hg steady and the sound stays the same. I guess it could be turbo spool, but I don't go into boost when its doing it.
Also, when I step into the gas but don't floor it, maybe 75-80% throttle (ill check out the safc tomorrow to see how much throttle input) the blow off valve continuously vents/seals, maintaining 15 psi, with no compressor surge, but if I step into it all the way, it'll spike 18-19 and slowly drop 1-2 psi to redline. I'm curious why this happens. It doesn't bother me, and shouldn't be hurting the car, as there is no surge.

Any insite is appreciated.

Yeah thats normal. You can rEALLY hear the turbo spool when you put an aftermarket WGA on.

don't worry about the second part. thats normal. You just got to get used to it, its like ;earning how to drive the car all over again. You are either on it really hard or barely on it. Remember not to floor it until you hit 3k RPMS too.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:34 am

got the wideband in today. I put it next to the stock boost gauge, but didn't have time to modify the dash pad to install the second boost gauge pod I bought. At some point I'm gonna have to take pigs of the random wiring ran underneath the car, its hilarious. I have everything zip tied up as tight to the floor pan as I can get w/o running the wiring taut, but I'm sure I'll still worry when I go over road buckles and whatnot, that somethings going to get ripped out. I also changed the oil today, and found small specks of what appear to be carbon buildup in the old oil. It shouldn't be metal, as I was able to crush the larger pieces between my fingers. One thing my dad suggested was a compression check to see if its piston rings... Hopefully not. Altho it does give me a reason to buy a new specialty tool. I'll do it this weekend when I change the plugs.

After I filled the motor with oil, I thought about the mopar carbon fiber valve cover in my garage, and kicked myself for not putting it on while the motor was empty.

Tomorrow, weather permitting, the mopar tension struts go in. I stopped by my dealership this afternoon to get the oil filter, and asked the parts guy if mopar made rear control arms (trailing arms), but he couldn't find any. I thought I had seen someone mention that mopar made adjustable ones, anyone got a clue about that?

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:32 pm

I finally took the time to put on my h-brace and traction bars. Its nice not having wheel hop in first anymore, and minimal spin in second. Great mod, well worth the money.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:38 pm

Nice. I made the dump truck comment. Whats your gas mileage like right now?

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:16 am

last check was 24.35 highway, I still average 21-22 city, which matches my dads stock '03 monte carlo in the city. Of course, he gets like 33-35 mpg with 4 people, a weeks worth of luggage for each, with a/c on the highway.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:15 am

Wenuden wrote:I thought I had seen someone mention that mopar made adjustable ones, anyone got a clue about that?

Mopar does make adjustable rear lower control arms. I can give you the # and price tomorrow.

*sigh* why you just don't make the trek to see me at work I'll never know...but that's ok...I'll look up your numbers so you can go to your "guy-who-couldn't-find-the-numbers-but-still-makes-the-sale" person.

I kid, I kid

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:08 am

Ok, here be the info you need...

Mopar Performance rear adjustable control arms.

Part #P4510870...MSRP $149.00

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:09 pm

thanks, man. Considering they're talking almost $200 more than you for a bare head, I'll probably be coming to see you soon. I go there because its on the way home from work. I actually stopped that time for a valve cover gasket, and just asked offhand about the arms, I wasn't going to buy LOL.

teamliviD · Post by **teamliviD** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:22 pm

i have a set sitting in my storage shed

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:42 pm

Wenuden wrote:thanks, man. Considering they're talking almost $200 more than you for a bare head, I'll probably be coming to see you soon. I go there because its on the way home from work. I actually stopped that time for a valve cover gasket, and just asked offhand about the arms, I wasn't going to buy LOL.

I'm just bustin your chops

But if Joe has a set laying around....

*quickly makes a call to snap them up*

Nah, got to much money spent already

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon May 05, 2008 7:17 pm

well, after 2 1/2 months of waiting for mickey tompson to fulfill a backorder for 235/60/15 dr's, I canceled the order and ordered some Hoosier 225/50/15's. They should be here Wednesday and be on the rims by Friday.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon May 05, 2008 7:19 pm

I would have waited, Mickey Thompsons FTMFW

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Mon May 05, 2008 8:50 pm

I told Norman to give me a call when they come off backorder, I'll probably buy a pair then. But I want something now. I wanna go to the track this weekend since I got the day off and got fucked on chili cookoff tickets.