please give my your honest opinion on my interior and resale

ibid · Post by **ibid** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:19 am

I have the interior in like new condition at this point with brand new aftermarket front seats that could work with my chro-moly roll bar that I have installed. I managed to get most of my interior reinstalled (obviously can't install the rear seat with the bar)

So my decision at this point is one of these:

a) sell it like this now
b) trade for exc condition viper style seats and cut out the bar
c) trade for exc condion viper style seats and leave the bar
d) trade for exc cond plus cash srs seats and leave the bar
e) trade for exc cond plus cash srs seats and cut out the bar

Please be brutally honest on what you think and why (the rest of the car is stock at this point except for 4 other things - stage 1 ECU, MSD Ignition wires, NKG spark plugs, and SS brake lines

DJ CptnCrnch · Post by **DJ CptnCrnch** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:08 am

its gonna be hard to sell it with those seats and the bar....when i lived in Dayton Oh, there was a blue srt with a bar and it sat on the lot for over 6 months...Every month it dropped in price, someone must have picked it up, but i dont think it sold for to much

ibid · Post by **ibid** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:52 am

DJ CptnCrnch wrote:its gonna be hard to sell it with those seats and the bar....when i lived in Dayton Oh, there was a blue srt with a bar and it sat on the lot for over 6 months...Every month it dropped in price, someone must have picked it up, but i dont think it sold for to much

good to know.. thanks

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:25 am

There is always a certain market that will go for a vehicle with racing seats, rollbar and no rear seat... but that is a very small market.

You expand your market considerably with standard seats including the rear installed and a rollbar delete.

Many years ago I had a Ford Pinto Hatchback that for the exception of tearing down the engine I had pretty much completely disassembled and put back together. The car was thoroughly undercoated inside & out, sound deadening material installed along with a huge audio system worth more than the car.

With the sound system turned off the Pinto was extremely quiet inside.

I tried to sell it intact and could find no one interested in purchasing it with the system... so I yanked it out and it sold a week later.

Mods are great for the person installing them, but sometimes present issues on resale.

DJ CptnCrnch · Post by **DJ CptnCrnch** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:10 am

The first thing i thought when i saw an SRT with a roll bar....car must have been beat on

ibid · Post by **ibid** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:52 am

DJ CptnCrnch wrote:The first thing i thought when i saw an SRT with a roll bar....car must have been beat on

ok

that pretty much settles it.. my car has not been 'beat on' so the bar comes out...

I still have 7/70 so if anyone were to even find a hint of anything wrong, I'd make sure it got fixed before sale but there isn't anything wrong anyway....

I've driven 'beat on' SRT4s and mine drives and feels nothing like them (heck, I test drove 8 SRT4s before buying mine and I know very well what a 'beat on' SRT4 feels like)

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:42 pm

how can you say your car hasn't been beat on? it's been on road courses, hasn't it? that's beat on. people don't put cages in cars for everyday driving. how many wheel bearings have you replaced? axles? not to mention the pics of the tires with marbles and track rubber all over them......

for what the car has been put thru, you were insane for thinking you'd get the 16k+ you were originally asking for it in the condition you were trying to sell it (no interior, racing seats, 5pt harness', a cage). even if i intended to use it as a track car myself, i'd consider giving 12-14k for it, tops.

even tho i'm sure it's not a requirement, it'd be nice if you disclosed the history of the car to any potential buyers. it'd be a shame to dump it on someone who can't afford to repair any potential major problems that may arise soooner than they should.

bone-yard-racing · Post by **bone-yard-racing** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:22 pm

^ Race cars are loved, hell this isnt even a race car its a time trial car (thats right I am not cool eneough to say time attack). Oil, trans, brake, PS, coolant changed after every event (monthly) Brakes on an almost constant basis. Probally stored in a warm locked garage. Engine dosent sit at idle 1/2 the time its run. I want to be a race car

. If I had $16,000 I would have bought it the second it went up for sale. I love the way the car looks. Just keep it the way it is. If anybody asks you why there's no back seat, hit them with a shovel and then ask them if thats where they drive from

ibid · Post by **ibid** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:07 pm

bone-yard-racing wrote:^ Race cars are loved, hell this isnt even a race car its a time trial car (thats right I am not cool eneough to say time attack). Oil, trans, brake, PS, coolant changed after every event (monthly) Brakes on an almost constant basis. Probally stored in a warm locked garage. Engine dosent sit at idle 1/2 the time its run. I want to be a race car . If I had $16,000 I would have bought it the second it went up for sale. I love the way the car looks. Just keep it the way it is. If anybody asks you why there's no back seat, hit them with a shovel and then ask them if thats where they drive from

your my hero!

...yup.. I changed oil every weekend.. and if I did a 2 day event, I'd change the oil at the track just cause I wanted to be safe.

I went through one axle because of a freak bad axle from the factory because it sheered at the spot where the axle nut goes (you could see the bubble where it sheered showing the lack of metal integrity there....) How that thing passed quality control I'll never know but hey, better to happen at a track than on the expressway going 70mph next to a semi-truck.. at least I only had myself to deal with on the road and no other traffic when it went..

Wheel bearings, went through 4 sets *but 3 of the changes were preventative before needed just cause fooled me once, shame on me, then I went for excessive changes to keep up-to-date

And oh, the 'suspension' I was so hard on lives on in another car...

The brakes on the car now are brand new, new fluid, new calipers, new rotors, new pads.. so better than when I got the car so never 'abused'

Anyone who drives my car, and then drives a car some teenager 'beat on' through potholes, launched from every traffic stop, etc. will clearly see how nice mine drives in comparison...

I also didn't do any crazy engine upgrades like some people who turn up boost to 30psi and then wonder why they break things? I kept mine nice and stock.. no changing of wastgate or boost control or any of that crap.. stock was just fine with me.

How many kiddies with their SRT4 actually wait to let the turbo spool down and cool off before shutting down their car? I always did/do!

So who's got more 'beat on' SRT4s out there?

The test drive is a clear indicator of 'beat on' or not.. as is the sound of the engine, the feel of the steering and suspension, trans, etc.

I changed the trans fluid almost as often as the oil changes (although it was never 'burnt' or discolored I did it for preventative and as a way of watching for any abnormal changes).

so yeah.. those who know, realize how much better a roadcourse TT car has been maintained vs. a regular Daily driver pothole, curb jumping road warrior that gets an oil change every 6 months if it's lucky.. lol

DJ CptnCrnch · Post by **DJ CptnCrnch** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:30 pm

dont get me wrong, i love your car and dont think u "beat on it" just when i see a roll bar in a car, i dont think it was driven by a grandma

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:39 am

how do u like those seats? i was looking at those myself.

If your car hasn't sold by next fall PM me i'll have done my co-ops by then and will be in the market for an srt. I use my car for autox anyway so roll cage or not it would be a good building car.

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:47 am

When I look at this car, without knowing the history, I see very strong visual clues that it *may* have been driven very enthusiastically... the very serious rollbar installation, lack of rear seat and racing style front seats.

Now if it was driven enthusiastically then I would expect that the maintenance was performed in accordance with that... in other words a very severe maintenance schedule was performed due to the severe type of operating conditions the vehicle was subjected to.

Personally, when shopping around for a vehicle I would have moved on and continued the search looking for a vehicle that I know had been driven less enthusiastically *and* was well maintained. I'd expect a vehicle like that to not wear out or have repair issues quite as quickly.

If you have not already, you may want to check into the transferability of your 7/70 warranty to a new owner and offer that up as selling point.

Great car... just not my cup of tea so to speak. (but then I'm an old fart compared to many around these here parts... LOL)

ibid · Post by **ibid** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:04 pm

ragek23 wrote:how do u like those seats? i was looking at those myself.

If your car hasn't sold by next fall PM me i'll have done my co-ops by then and will be in the market for an srt. I use my car for autox anyway so roll cage or not it would be a good building car.

it better be long sold by then.. but I'm either trading these seats OR selling them once I reinstall stock seats and cut out the bar..

this car will get sold as a stock car again since it is mostly stock again already anyway..