collision damage questions

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:21 pm

What kind of a frame does a 2gn have, is it one piece or is it separate pieces bolted together? Thanks.

-Jason

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:06 pm

Also, what is the minimum vehicle speed to deploy airbags?

RopeRat1 · Post by **RopeRat1** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:23 pm

Both gens are 100% uni-body and both use a lower suspension cradle (K-frame). There are no bolt-on frame rails. The uni-body rails include the crush/crumple zones.

Airbags deploy off g-force (1g = 1x the force of gravity, etc.)generated by the collision, not a specific mph.

The safing sensor (inside the airbag controller) closes to power the bag modules at 4-7g. The impact sensor (on the frame rails on 1995-96 and inside the controller on 1997-2005) closes to ground the system at 5-8g. This translates to approx. 8-16mph. The closer the impact point is to the impact sensor(s), the lower the vehicle speed required to deploy the bags.

Jonathan (RopeRat1)

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:40 am

Then my acr will probably be considered totalled. This honda crv ran a red light and I ended up t-boning him. My front bumper, hood and fenders are damaged. And the front clip or front bar on my frame is pushed over to the right. I will get pictures up today. God I hope my beloved ACR can be saved

I was barely doing 15mph at the most, just taking off on the green light, the other guy was trying to beat his red light. He was going fast enough to flip over on his top after we made contact and he fishtailed into a median curb. We're all ok, his little suv isn't. I have to go see a lawyer today and my insurance company. I still can't believe it happened.

MiracleACR · Post by **MiracleACR** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:02 am

sorry to hear about the accident. Never a fun event. Glad to hear you are alright.

My buddy had a 1st gen that was in an accident involving the front of his vehicle, doing about the same speed as yours, and sadly his factory freak couldn't be fixed and was totalled out.

Good Luck. I hope yours is different.

-Pete

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:43 am

There goes another unicorn

RopeRat1 · Post by **RopeRat1** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:06 am

GOOD chance it'll be totalled since the rails are kicked to the right.

I'm presuming your airbags didn't deploy since you asked about minimum speed. The driver/passenger aribags are designed to deploy in a frontal impact between the headlights. Side impacts like you took are not supposed to trigger the sensors.

Glad to hear you're OK.

Jonathan (RopeRat1)

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:08 am

only the front beam behind the bumper is kicked to the right. About 3 to 4 inches.

RopeRat1 · Post by **RopeRat1** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:11 am

Look for kinks or cracked/chipped paint along both rails, esp.where the rail attaches to the cowl and get under the car for a close look at the cradle.

Ya may get lucky and it'll be repairable.

Jonathan (RopeRat1)

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:03 pm

if it does get totalled by the insurance, maybe you can buy it back and get the frame straightened out.

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:26 am

Totalled. Insurance is covering it, my rates won't go up. I'm just out of my acr. That's ok, I got another one lined up. Really sucks though. I'm getting all my parts tomorrow, lots of work. My new 18's just came in yesterday too

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:55 am

sucks about your car, but at least the wreck wasnt worse....when cars get totaled like that...does the insurance company let you take what you can off of it (as far as your mods go) or do they make you buy that back too??

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:10 pm

ram50rocket wrote: I'm getting all my parts tomorrow, lots of work. My new 18's just came in yesterday too

dblsg · Post by **dblsg** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:10 pm

so its not a total loss....::):

ram50rocket · Post by **ram50rocket** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:31 pm

It's an incredibly painfull loss to me, I'd rather give up all my aftermarket parts and have it unwrecked. Here is a pic, more pics on my cardomain site, click on www below.

See how the front beam of the frame is too pushed to the left? I like to think it could be straigthened, but the germans think different. If this event happened in the states, I could afford to buy it back and fix it. I am very sad, but I did get approved for an SRT-4 today,